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Nov 14, 2013 05:00 |  #1

Hi everyone! I waiting for your advice. I'm going to take a new lens for my canon 550d and looking at canon 18-200 IS, 28-105L, 70-200F4l. I'm like to take it as my walkaround and some lanscapes. I just have kit len 18-55. Thank you!




  
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Nov 14, 2013 05:51 |  #2

Swimer wrote in post #16450606 (external link)
Hi everyone! I waiting for your advice. I'm going to take a new lens for my canon 550d and looking at canon 18-200 IS, 28-105L, 70-200F4l. I'm like to take it as my walkaround and some lanscapes. I just have kit len 18-55. Thank you!

Without knowing your skill level, i'll assume minimal until proven other wise.

The route i took over the past 5 years since i bought an SLR is as follows:

450D with 18 - 55 and 55 - 250
6 months later bought 50mm 1.8
next was Canon 18 -200. Kept this for about 8 months, and then went over the pictures i took in that time to assess what focal lengths i used the most.

Decided 50 was too long, sold that and bought the Sigma 30 1.4, which was one of my favorite lenses for about a year.

Upgraded my body to 60D

Just recently bought Sigma 18 - 35 and sold the 30 1.4

For what i use my camera for, the 18 - 35 is 90% of my needs, thus the purchase.

Decide what focal lengths you use the most, and look for something in that range. For 'walk around' as you say, you 18 - 55 should be fine. If lacking range, get say an 18 - 135, or maybe a 24 - 105. The 70 - 200 is not 'walk aroundable'. You will struggle with the length.


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Nov 14, 2013 06:32 |  #3

Heya,

Since you're talking about "walk around" and "landscapes," it's confusing that you're wanting lenses that reach far, and have only 18, 28 and 70 as your widest angles on an APS-C sensor, which means they're not that wide.

Canon EF-S 10-22mm would be more like something I would suggest.

But hey, maybe you do close up landscapes?

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Nov 14, 2013 06:43 |  #4

Tks Gall551and MalVeauX for your both helpfull advices. I'm vary beginner but like to take lanscape at distance 200m or more. So from your advice i'm thinking of 24-105L.That'smaybe better for me. Anyway thanks!




  
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Nov 14, 2013 07:38 |  #5

I'd recommend the sigma 17-55. It's a fairly cheap lens compared to the others you are looking at with a price of around 500. I bought one to replace the 18-55 kit lens on my t2i and I really enjoyed it


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Nov 14, 2013 08:31 as a reply to  @ cschultz's post |  #6

You say you're a beginner so I assume you don't know yet what your favourite style is. You may find you love architecture, or macro, or portraits...whatever..​.or you might find out that photography is just a minor hobby.
I wouldn't spend a lot of money, I would just pick a second hand 55-250 to complete your kit and just shoot a lot. In about one year you'll know what you need to improve, or might be just happy with what you have


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Nov 14, 2013 08:56 |  #7

I second the suggestion of a 55-250, until you know exactly what you want and why you want it. You'll be covered from 18 mm to 250 mm, which is a good range, and if you're shooting mainly landscapes you'll be stopping down, so the kit lenses will do a good job for you. You could use them for a while, to decide which direction you really want to go. For example: do you want a faster lens that will allow you to get shallower depth of field? Do you want a fast-focusing lens to capture sports or moving subjects? Do you want better build and resistance to rain? Do you prefer a zoom or a prime? Do you need a wider lens than 18 mm, or would you be happy with a lens that starts at 24 mm? How comfortable are you with a lens that doesn't have IS, especially at the longer focal lengths? These are questions you should ask and answer before dropping large sums of money on more equipment.

In my case, I used the kit lenses for more than a year before I replaced them. During that time, I discovered that I wanted fast-focusing lenses for moving subjects, that I preferred a general lens with more reach rather than wide-angle capability, and that I wanted to explore macro. So these were the areas in which I invested.

Good luck with your choice, and enjoy!


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Nov 14, 2013 11:38 |  #8

First let's deal with the "walk-around" lens...

Much less expensive alternatives to EF 24-105L IS USM are EF 28-135 IS USM and EF-S 18-135 IS STM. You will not see much difference in image quality. In autofocus performance the USM lenses are likely a little better for still photography, the STM may be a lttle better for video, though only with later camera models... it won't make much difference on a 550D. The main difference with the L is in build quality and sealing. You decide if you are willing to pay much more just for that.

Another very interesting "walkaround" lens is the EF-S 15-85 IS USM. It's got an unusual focal length range, wider than most, and has top image quality.

If you need larger aperture for lower light shooting and shallower depth of field, the EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS USM is another fine lens.... However the trade-off to get the larger aperture is a much narrower range of focal lengths.

Depending upon what walk-around lens you choose, for landscape photography you might want something wider. Canon EF-S 10-22mm USM is arguably one of the best available for use on your camera.

Also depending upon what walk-around lens you choose, if you need longer focal lengths there are many possibilities. But among the best all around are the Canon EF 70-200 Ls. There are four to choose among. The f4 versions are a bit smaller and lighter, as well as less expensive. The f2.8 versions are bigger, heavier, and more expensive. There is also a choice of with or without IS. IS adds cost, but if at all possible I'd recommend it. It's more important the longer the focal length you are trying to handhold.

But if you get one of the walk-around lenses that goes to 105mm or 135mm, you may not need a 70-200 now. May not even need it at all. Or if you ever find need for a longer lens, you might choose to go with a 100-400mm or 120-400mm, for example.


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Nov 14, 2013 17:55 |  #9

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Tks Gall551and MalVeauX for your both helpfull advices. I'm vary beginner but like to take lanscape at distance 200m or more. So from your advice i'm thinking of 24-105L.That'smaybe better for me. Anyway thanks!

how have you taken landscapes at 200mm or more?

and if you want 200mm or more, why are you thinking a lens that goes to 105mm would be better?

i agree with the 55-250mm...STM if you can swing it, if not the regular version would work well


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Nov 14, 2013 18:36 |  #10

Swimer wrote in post #16450606 (external link)
Hi everyone! I waiting for your advice. I'm going to take a new lens for my canon 550d and looking at canon 18-200 IS, 28-105L, 70-200F4l. I'm like to take it as my walkaround and some lanscapes. I just have kit len 18-55. Thank you!

The Canon 18-200mm image stabilizer lens (external link) is a pleasantly versatile and usable lens for those who are more interested in gathering images than switching lenses. Examples:

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Nov 14, 2013 20:10 |  #11

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how have you taken landscapes at 200mm or more?

and if you want 200mm or more, why are you thinking a lens that goes to 105mm would be better?

i agree with the 55-250mm...STM if you can swing it, if not the regular version would work well

DreDaze: the OP said 200m distance, not 200mm focal lenght. Anyway, 55-250 is a good idea.




  
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Nov 14, 2013 20:29 |  #12

I started with the EF-S 18-200 which is a great lens, with the idea that I will check after a while what focal lengths I use the most and buy accordingly. Then I bought the EF 50 f1.8 which I find fantastic.

Here is a comparison of the EF-S 18-200 against the vaunted EF 70-200 (100%crop)

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The EF-S 18-200 holds its own remarkably well in terms of sharpness and detail. It loses in terms of CA, rendering, microcontrast. Keep in mind that it covers the range that the 2 Ls cover for 1/8 of the price...

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Nov 15, 2013 02:28 |  #13

Tks for your help and kindness to reply. It's rather confused. Cause I like to take landscape so I choose the zoom lense. It the 70-200F4L accompany well with my 550d pls? Or I should take canon 17-55 IS. With my kit len 18-55 I don't like any more because the range is not convenient for me.




  
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Nov 15, 2013 08:38 |  #14

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Tks for your help and kindness to reply. It's rather confused. Cause I like to take landscape so I choose the zoom lense. It the 70-200F4L accompany well with my 550d pls? Or I should take canon 17-55 IS. With my kit len 18-55 I don't like any more because the range is not convenient for me.

If you don't like the range of the 18-55, why would you even consider the 17-55? It's virtually identical. If the 18-55 range isn't right for you, don't buy the 17-55.

The 70-200 will work nicely on your 550D, but would probably not be most people's first choice for a landscape lens, and even less so for a general walk-around lens. Note that it doesn't have IS, so you will need good light and a steady hand when shooting at the longer focal lengths.

If you want a lens that goes up to 200 mm, and intend to use it as your only or main lens, the 18-200 would be a better choice IMHO.


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Nov 15, 2013 20:31 |  #15

Tls Ceegee! I intend the 17-55 because I read good review in foroom that it a good len in quality and picture also the 17-40 L . So i think is better then my kit len. Cause I don't now much. There is an used 18-200 the seller requests 350 US. Is this a good deal?




  
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