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Nov 14, 2013 14:15 |  #31
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Full disclosure I shoot Nikon but when someone handed me their Canon Rebel the other day to help with some settings I was lost.

So it's all what you're comfortable with, not which one is better




  
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Nov 14, 2013 14:30 |  #32

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I've also heard that the D4 is a killer regarding low light focusing. Have you compared it to the center AF point of the 6D? That should be the best AF point on any Canon body in very low light situations (down to -3EV). How much better the 5D3/1Dx AF system is compared to the D4 AF system, depends on the shooting conditions in my opinion.

I don't have any problem with Nikon otherwise, I respect them just like I respect e.g. Sony or Pentax. I can see "flaws" with any DSLR of any brand. But the disadvantages of Nikon DSLRs are bigger than the disadvantages of Canon DSLRs for me and that's why I'm shooting with Canon instead of Nikon. :)

Yeah the D4 baffles me with its focus in low light. Things the 5d3 will hunt forever on, the D4 just goes and locks. In single shot there is no difference between makes in good light regular shooting, but in tracking mode the D4 isn't as fast. Canons spot focus is really sweet too. I have not had the chance to use a 6D yet so I cant say. If I shot moving things for a living, the Canon would be in my bag. For everything else, its just personal preference and what your investment in glass is in my opinion. I honestly love both brands for different reasons and have both in my household =)


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Nov 14, 2013 16:44 |  #33

oh la la , this thread has been moved.
I guess it did not do well,
That tough for my ego




  
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Nov 14, 2013 17:12 |  #34

jocau wrote in post #16451569 (external link)
Could be and I dislike the Nikon AF sensors. A characteristic of a non-crosstype AF point is that it only detects contrast details/patterns in one direction (e.g. horizontally or vertically). If contrast details/patterns are running in the wrong direction, a non-crosstype AF point will start hunting and fail to lock on. I've regularly experienced this with multiple DSLRs (e.g. with my 550D/T2i or the 6D) and that's why I'm not a big fan of non-crosstype AF points. Also for anything that moves, crosstype AF points are much better. No, where Nikon uses great (Sony) sensors and has some really nice glass, they always (completely) fail to impress me with their AF systems.

I don't shoot things that move quickly. So, it's not like I shoot brides in flight. ;) Canon still uses old tech and it's sad that they're lacking in that department. Plus, I'm no spray n' pray shooter. As long as the clients are happy is all that matters to me. I can shoot both Canon and Nikon. Until Canon gets their head out of the sand, I'll be using gear that works for me.




  
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Nov 14, 2013 17:16 |  #35

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Yeah the D4 baffles me with its focus in low light. Things the 5d3 will hunt forever on, the D4 just goes and locks. In single shot there is no difference between makes in good light regular shooting, but in tracking mode the D4 isn't as fast. Canons spot focus is really sweet too. I have not had the chance to use a 6D yet so I cant say. If I shot moving things for a living, the Canon would be in my bag. For everything else, its just personal preference and what your investment in glass is in my opinion. I honestly love both brands for different reasons and have both in my household =)

The 6D has one good center AF point. That's it. The cross type points are so-so and the outer points lock like the old 5Dc/5D MK II. :) You're not missing much.




  
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Nov 14, 2013 17:19 |  #36

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I've owned the 5D3 and many Canon 1D bodies and had a 1Dx for about 2 weeks. When it came to AF the 1Dx is the best camera I've ever used but only marginally better than the D4, and that was only in tracking mode... BUT...when the lights go down the Canons got put away because "Nothing" can focus in low light like the D4 can. I swear that thing can see in the dark.

the D4 is smaller and lighter than the 1Dx and it fits like a glove. My wife hates the way Nikons feel too so she has a 5D3 and loves it:D

if it takes great images..I could care less what name is on it

This is the same experience I had with the 1D X. The D4 can lock even in low contrast situations.




  
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Nov 15, 2013 06:03 |  #37

Sega, if you want a Nikon I would go ahead and try one. Of course many will suggest that ergonomics and aesthetics are a big deal for many. I on the other hand am very adaptable. Will the feel of the Nikon be different? Of course. :) It will take some time to get used to. The menu/sub menus will take getting used to as well but, what's great is that it's highly customizable. The main reason for me going back to Nikon is the 35mm sensors. :)




  
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Nov 16, 2013 16:01 |  #38

Ok my honest take: Almost all Canons I've held have much better feel.. even the cheap 6D, 60D, 7D and 5D's all feel good because the grip area is rounded. It's like grabbing real boobs, there's substance to it. You know what I mean? The smaller Nikons like D7K, D90, and especially Dxxxx lineup are quite pathetic in this regard. The grip area is so thin and it makes my hand cramp. Only when you go up to the D700, D800 and D4 level will you feel much better ergonomics. What I like about Canon is even on their low end bodies, the ergonomics is fantastic.

What I don't like about Canon bodies is their confusing menu system, the stupid rotating wheel in the back, and overall look of the cameras - they look butt ugly and the pro bodies prism look like Darth Vader's head. The rubber feels hard and slippery. The Nikon rubber is grippier and softer BUT this can be bad too because they peel easily and get really sticky as the camera ages. Also, the shutter sound on the 6D sounds like a fax machine running out of paper. Most Nikons have a solid shutter sound (except the Dxxxx line, lol)

Bottom line... there is no perfect camera. You're just gonna have to live with compromises.


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Nov 18, 2013 07:51 |  #39

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Sega, if you want a Nikon I would go ahead and try one. Of course many will suggest that ergonomics and aesthetics are a big deal for many. I on the other hand am very adaptable. Will the feel of the Nikon be different? Of course. :) It will take some time to get used to. The menu/sub menus will take getting used to as well but, what's great is that it's highly customizable. The main reason for me going back to Nikon is the 35mm sensors. :)

I tried one recently at my B-day I bought one but had to return it since the flash were not compatible, i should have know, but the seller told me so If I remember well, it was a future shop.
Its a good thing i did not even try to use the canon flash on the nikon, it could haver ruined it.

But in the 2 days I had it it was really cool, the D7100 has a great viewfinder, fast autofocus....and it was light, compared to my 5DkkII.
the pics were the same, only when I viewed them in full size the 5D was the winner.
But for the price it was great, what i did not like was the grip...not as ergo as canon, and the video mode had a problem if you wanted to choose AV on the spot.
Apart from that I really love Nikon, and i'm about to go and try a Fuji as soon as they have it in stock (XE2)
If for some reason I don't like it, i'm thinking maybe getting the D7100 again, since its lighter than my 5D for a NY trip!
I will get a flash for it eventually, might sell one of my lens that I don't use often!




  
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Nov 18, 2013 08:06 |  #40

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I tried one recently at my B-day I bought one but had to return it since the flash were not compatible, i should have know, but the seller told me so If I remember well, it was a future shop.
Its a good thing i did not even try to use the canon flash on the nikon, it could haver ruined it.

But in the 2 days I had it it was really cool, the D7100 has a great viewfinder, fast autofocus....and it was light, compared to my 5DkkII.
the pics were the same, only when I viewed them in full size the 5D was the winner.
But for the price it was great, what i did not like was the grip...not as ergo as canon, and the video mode had a problem if you wanted to choose AV on the spot.
Apart from that I really love Nikon, and i'm about to go and try a Fuji as soon as they have it in stock (XE2)
If for some reason I don't like it, i'm thinking maybe getting the D7100 again, since its lighter than my 5D for a NY trip!
I will get a flash for it eventually, might sell one of my lens that I don't use often!

That's cool. For comparison, you should've tried a FF body (D600). The IQ from DR to ISO performance is undeniable. :)




  
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Nov 18, 2013 08:41 |  #41

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That's cool. For comparison, you should've tried a FF body (D600). The IQ from DR to ISO performance is undeniable. :)

I know FF are the best, but with a 24mpx camera, better use good lenses.
So it brings up the price a little too high.
And what I was looking for is something lighter to my 5D II
So it leaves me basically in the mirror less camera.
I might sell the 5DII for a Nikon if ever I make the switch, only for the viewfinder and the LCD that I really like, it has nothing to do with better pics.
To me the viewfinder is really important, I got poor eyesight, specially at 50 years old.
And I hate to look in the viewfinder with my glasses , so when I tried the D7100 it felt good.
I think my Canon is now old, I need a fresh camera.

I'm takin my time, no rush.

Oh yeah, the D600 has all the focus point all in one small group, and it takes 1/3 of the camera the D7100 are all over the focus screen.




  
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Nov 18, 2013 08:57 |  #42

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I know FF are the best, but with a 24mpx camera, better use good lenses.
So it brings up the price a little too high.
And what I was looking for is something lighter to my 5D II
So it leaves me basically in the mirror less camera.
I might sell the 5DII for a Nikon if ever I make the switch, only for the viewfinder and the LCD that I really like, it has nothing to do with better pics.
To me the viewfinder is really important, I got poor eyesight, specially at 50 years old.
And I hate to look in the viewfinder with my glasses , so when I tried the D7100 it felt good.
I think my Canon is now old, I need a fresh camera.

I'm takin my time, no rush.

Oh yeah, the D600 has all the focus point all in one small group, and it takes 1/3 of the camera the D7100 are all over the focus screen.

I wish the D600/610 had 51 AF points but, it's still workable. :)




  
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Nov 18, 2013 12:47 |  #43

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I wish the D600/610 had 51 AF points but, it's still workable. :)

Its the way they spead those focus points, all packed in the center real tight.
Wonder why, i sometimes wonder whats wrong with those cie.
They make sure they dont step on their higher price camera, thats for sure.




  
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Nov 18, 2013 13:33 |  #44

I love the look of the retro Nikon Df. But I am 66, so maybe that's to be expected. I also like the way it does not offer moving images - Canon take note!

I'd love a similar camera with the D800E sensor size.


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Nov 18, 2013 14:43 |  #45

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I love the look of the retro Nikon Df. But I am 66, so maybe that's to be expected. I also like the way it does not offer moving images - Canon take note!

I'd love a similar camera with the D800E sensor size.

Don't you think 36 mpx is too bif of a file.
Unless you print posters
Need good glass, and huge memory cards, and another external hard drive.
But for the price, its cheaper than a medium camera.




  
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