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Traded my 60D for a 5D

 
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Nov 15, 2013 12:51 |  #16
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Charlie wrote in post #16453453 (external link)
If you don't need video, the 5d produces much better files than the 60d. You're seriously underestimating the 5d, which will likely retain it's value better than a 60d at this point. For a general photography tool, it's hard to make a claim of the 60d being better than the 5D.

I don't think it is very hard at all to make that claim. The 60D is better at 3200 than the 5D is. Dynamic range, noise, resolution, sharpness with the same lens, you name it. The 5D is beginning to fall apart at 3200. The 5D is not even capable of 3200+, and the 60D is more than adequate, for personal use, at 6400, and very useable at 12,800. The AF system and the burst rate are much better on the 60D. So is the rear screen.

At 1600 and below, the 5D is the clear winner, in many, if not most regards. Above 3200 it can't even contend. The 60D is superior by default if you need ISO greater than 3200, or an AF system that works.

I am not berating the 5D. It is a fine camera and I have no plans to relinquish mine. It gets me better looking files at 800 to 1600 than the 60D can provide. It also affords me much better DOF control with f/2.8 lenses than the 60D does. Better depends on what you want to do with the tool. Both are fine cameras that excel at different things.

I do agree with you about the 5D holding its value better from now on. Right now they are about the same price. Two or three years from now the 5D will still be in the $500 range. I don't see the 60D holding on to that kind of value through next year.




  
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Nov 15, 2013 13:29 |  #17

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I don't think it is very hard at all to make that claim. The 60D is better at 3200 than the 5D is. Dynamic range, noise, resolution, sharpness with the same lens, you name it. The 5D is beginning to fall apart at 3200. The 5D is not even capable of 3200+, and the 60D is more than adequate, for personal use, at 6400, and very useable at 12,800. The AF system and the burst rate are much better on the 60D. So is the rear screen.

At 1600 and below, the 5D is the clear winner, in many, if not most regards. Above 3200 it can't even contend. The 60D is superior by default if you need ISO greater than 3200, or an AF system that works.

I am not berating the 5D. It is a fine camera and I have no plans to relinquish mine. It gets me better looking files at 800 to 1600 than the 60D can provide. It also affords me much better DOF control with f/2.8 lenses than the 60D does. Better depends on what you want to do with the tool. Both are fine cameras that excel at different things.

I do agree with you about the 5D holding its value better from now on. Right now they are about the same price. Two or three years from now the 5D will still be in the $500 range. I don't see the 60D holding on to that kind of value through next year.

not going to disagree, it's true. I just think you're putting too much stock into high ISO ability. Quite frankly, the 60D is pretty crappy at 6400, and at 3200, the 5D holds up just as well. I think the vast majority of photos are taken at relatively low iso's, so clean ISO 100-3200 matter a lot more than 6400 and up.

there are very few exceptions where the 60D is a better tool, and that's for low light sports photography, and birding. As a general photography tool, the 5D is vastly superior, not only due to the image quality, but due to having native EF lenses. Every single lens that the TS has, is a FF lens, and will now work as it is intended, using every bit of glass :D


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Nov 15, 2013 13:44 |  #18

Kanye wrote in post #16454029 (external link)
Is it normal for images to appear blurry on screen???

Going from a 60D ha!

You mean the camera LCD display?
The serial number of your camera begins with 1xxxxx..., ? If so, these ones have bad screens with yelow tint. The ones with serial number begin with 2xxxxxx... are a little better :) .




  
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Nov 15, 2013 13:49 |  #19
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There are a lot of 60D shooters out there who whole-heartedly disagree with your assessment of the 60D at 6400. That is why Canon makes so many different cameras. There is one for each of us.




  
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Nov 15, 2013 13:59 |  #20

I agree with Charlie.
For personal use , the 5D is a very good camera. And I have used 7D for 1 year, 5D mk II for 1 year and 2 month. Now I have 5D for an year and half, and I like the IQ from 5Dc. It produces a more warm and pleasing jpeg-s.
Dont take me wrong, I sale the gear because of personal problems. The photos are more of the person behind the camera :) .




  
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Nov 15, 2013 14:09 |  #21
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niku2 wrote in post #16454197 (external link)
... The photos are more of the person behind the camera :) .

True. Something that is way too easy to lose sight of.




  
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Nov 15, 2013 15:11 |  #22

I'd say this was a fair deal.




  
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Nov 15, 2013 16:08 as a reply to  @ Krichton's post |  #23

Good deal..
Not sure why it's blurry, maybe the focus is off?
My only recommendation is to try something before you buy or trade it.


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Nov 15, 2013 16:17 |  #24

I know the 5D shows low quality jpeg thumbails as previews in replay mode, does the 60D have higher quality ones? I've never trusted the preview as a judge of accurate focus.



  
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Nov 15, 2013 16:18 |  #25

I went from a 60D to a 5D Classic and immediately fell in love with the raw images. MUCH better files than produced by the 60D. I constantly came back from shooting with the 60D disappointed and that stopped when I started using my 5D. Just much better iQ and that's all I was concerned with. No need to compare all the bells and whistles if your bottom line is which will give me the better image quality. Good choice! you won't regret it, ever.


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Nov 15, 2013 16:20 |  #26

Charlie wrote in post #16454136 (external link)
not going to disagree, it's true. I just think you're putting too much stock into high ISO ability. Quite frankly, the 60D is pretty crappy at 6400, and at 3200, the 5D holds up just as well. I think the vast majority of photos are taken at relatively low iso's, so clean ISO 100-3200 matter a lot more than 6400 and up.

there are very few exceptions where the 60D is a better tool, and that's for low light sports photography, and birding. As a general photography tool, the 5D is vastly superior, not only due to the image quality, but due to having native EF lenses. Every single lens that the TS has, is a FF lens, and will now work as it is intended, using every bit of glass :D


I have to agree with you. regardless of which camera has "less" noise at high iso, I still think the noise produced on a FF sensor still looks much smoother and unobtrusive than an aps-c


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Nov 15, 2013 16:24 |  #27

RMLPhoto wrote in post #16454563 (external link)
I went from a 60D to a 5D Classic and immediately fell in love with the raw images. 100x better files than produced by the 60D.

What an obscene statement.


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Nov 15, 2013 16:26 |  #28

Frodge wrote in post #16454575 (external link)
What an obscene statement.

He's using the literary device, hyperbole, to make a point.




  
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Nov 15, 2013 16:30 |  #29

Kanye wrote in post #16454578 (external link)
He's using the literary device, hyperbole, to make a point.

I call it complete exaggeration.


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Nov 15, 2013 16:38 |  #30

Frodge wrote in post #16454586 (external link)
I call it complete exaggeration.

Relax. Hyperbole for sure. And there is a reason the much newer 60D is selling for the same price brand new as these old beat up 5Ds. I think that speaks for itself.

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I'd say less than most classics sell for actually.


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