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Trying to improve my PP

 
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Nov 14, 2013 15:23 |  #1

so i wanna push my PP to the next level... would like C&C on the new edit from the original one and any advice on things i could still change...

here is the SOOC

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this is the orginal one i edited for a senior portrait client client...
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Been studying a bit and tried some new processes.... what you guys think
things i did different..
-used liquify on nose
-refined lips
-used scratch-dust filter to smooth skin
-and used various other tools to work more on hot spots of the hair as well as stray hairs
-and tried to separate the model from the background better

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k so i burned the face a bit and deleted the iris enhance which was the only thing i did to the eyes in both.. i merged down the stray hair layer so i cant bring that back but i could post the SOOC(up top) pic to show just how much there was...

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heres a B&W
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Any other input or suggestions would be appreciated

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Nov 14, 2013 15:31 |  #2

The eyes are way overcooked on both versions. I liked that you brightened the face, but perhaps you went a bit too far, and it seems like the background is better exposed in the first edit as the colors look more saturated when they are darker.




  
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Nov 14, 2013 15:55 |  #3

gonzogolf wrote in post #16451885 (external link)
The eyes are way overcooked on both versions. I liked that you brightened the face, but perhaps you went a bit too far, and it seems like the background is better exposed in the first edit as the colors look more saturated when they are darker.

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Removing the stray hairs makes her look cut out. I usually leave most strays because it just looks more natural to me.

Heck, I don't think your first image is bad. Lighting is just a little flat but still a nice shot.


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Nov 14, 2013 16:45 as a reply to  @ saea501's post |  #4

k so i burned the face a bit and deleted the iris enhance which was the only thing i did to the eyes in both.. i merged down the stray hair layer so i cant bring that back but i could post the SOOC pic to show just how much there was...

IMAGE: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5524/10860979974_1a0edee442_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …kphotography/10​860979974/  (external link)
IMG_3580 edit 3 (external link) by BartCepekPhotography (external link), on Flickr

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Nov 14, 2013 16:51 as a reply to  @ bartc's post |  #5

i liked the first picture the best too, other than being maybe 1/2 stop under on her face. sorry i know its not what you wanted...

the PP shot looked way blown out on the face. i didnt (dont know) know the eyes were overworked. i thought that might have been as a result of the face lightening...




  
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Nov 14, 2013 17:41 |  #6

This edit looks less enhanced, I like it better than the original two posted. Good progress


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Nov 14, 2013 18:03 as a reply to  @ pninnja's post |  #7

^^^ what would you suggest i change next...


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Nov 15, 2013 21:00 as a reply to  @ bartc's post |  #8

hows this look

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Nov 17, 2013 10:07 |  #9

I tried something with some cloning of the background, I hope you like it - not sure if you like the amount of "enhancing", some people prefer a more natural look ;)

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Edited the wb slightly, anyway the idea was more to show the different background thanks for the hint though kirk ;)

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Nov 17, 2013 10:32 |  #10

The last one by Eva is very green. Very.


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Nov 17, 2013 12:30 |  #11

<Eve> wrote in post #16458132 (external link)
I tried something with some cloning of the background, I hope you like it - not sure if you like the amount of "enhancing", some people prefer a more natural look ;)

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Edited the wb slightly, anyway the idea was more to show the different background thanks for the hint though kirk ;)

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honestly the background is not bad but i do like the waterfall i had event though it was quite bokeh'd ... thxs for the different takes on my photo


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Nov 17, 2013 13:17 as a reply to  @ bartc's post |  #12

How about just increasing exposure about a half stop or so then adding a vignette to darken the bg back down a little? That way, you don't loose all those freckles that she is probably renowned for. ;)


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Nov 17, 2013 16:25 |  #13
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Yep, ^ this edit is best




  
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Nov 17, 2013 17:22 as a reply to  @ post 16458969 |  #14

As far as skin smoothing, if any was felt necessary, I don't think personally I'd go any further than this edit as it still shows her freckles just to a lesser degree.


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Nov 17, 2013 18:54 as a reply to  @ navydoc's post |  #15

I gotta agree with Gene...you took a perfectly lovely lady and produced something less so. ;)


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