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Nov 10, 2013 10:38 |  #16

Scott,

I was wondering what to do re: lens hood. The "official" one seemed over priced and underpowered.

Stepping ring sounds like a good way to go, I might even have an old hood/ring/adapter/coff​ee cup(?)/whatever that I can repurpose.

I'll be using the Skopar on a 6D as well as a 7D so two different hoods might be a good idea.

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Nov 10, 2013 11:11 |  #17

JD, I only use the one hood that I made. It's very small and doesn't vignette on FF at all. If you want to make it even smaller you could probaly use two 52mm filter rings. If I recall correctly that didn't vignette on FF either. I went with the 58 because I had a handful of 58mm filters so if I want to use those I already have the step up ring on the lens. It all depends on how deep you want the hood to be. For me it's mostly for bump protection and so I can throw it in the bag without worrying about a lens cap. The deeper you want it to be the wider you will need to make it. If flare becomes an issue I hold my hand up to block the light. I don't think any hood on an UWA is going to do much for flare.


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Nov 10, 2013 13:33 |  #18

Thanks for the suggestions...sounds good.

I shot large format for about a hundred years so the hand over the lens is something I've perfected over the years. Don't guess I'll have a dark slide handy, but with my bald head I always have a hat handy.

Realy like your stuff on Flkr with the Skopar. Makes me very comfortable with my decision.

I think that Bob Roll had some narly adventures in the Buena Vista area, don't know if you read his book or not, but it's a hoot!

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Nov 10, 2013 23:30 |  #19

scottda wrote in post #16439618 (external link)
JD, I only use the one hood that I made. It's very small and doesn't vignette on FF at all. If you want to make it even smaller you could probaly use two 52mm filter rings. If I recall correctly that didn't vignette on FF either. I went with the 58 because I had a handful of 58mm filters so if I want to use those I already have the step up ring on the lens. It all depends on how deep you want the hood to be. For me it's mostly for bump protection and so I can throw it in the bag without worrying about a lens cap. The deeper you want it to be the wider you will need to make it. If flare becomes an issue I hold my hand up to block the light. I don't think any hood on an UWA is going to do much for flare.

What the pro and con compared to your 17-40?
I also have 17-40, thinking to buy this 20mm when travel light.


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Nov 11, 2013 06:08 |  #20

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What the pro and con compared to your 17-40?
I also have 17-40, thinking to buy this 20mm when travel light.

Pros over the zoom: smaller, lighter, very nice focusing scale, manual focus ring is very nice to use, you can rack it out to infinity with no problem. I haven't done exhaustive IQ tests but I'd say compared to the zoom @ 20mm they are very comparable at smaller apertures maybe a slight edge to the prime (of course I'm biased so take that for what it's worth). I can't really say how they compare wide open as I don't get worked up about edges and corners if I am shooting wide open with any lens.

The zoom, of course, zooms, has auto focus and is reasonably small and light for a high quality zoom. Add the hood and it gets pretty obnoxious, though. The focus scale on the zoom is useless for any type of hyperfocal or zone focusing. Manually zooming to infinity is not really possible w/ Canons buffer zone. Though, AF works fine in that regard.

All that said I only use the zoom when I know I will need AF to get the shots AND if I know I'll need multiple focal lengths quickly. In other words for my style of photography the prime(s) gets the nod 95% of the time.


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Nov 12, 2013 10:15 |  #21

Well...the Color Skopar arrived yesterday...it's a wee brick innit?

Gotta get it out in the world and see if it shoots as well as feels, works great in the office, but I already have plenty pictures of my book selves!

BTW, the hood for the Canon 40 f/2.8 pancake works a treat, at least on APS-C, I have to try it on FF to see if it vignettes, I suspect it will but I'll let you all know as soon as I get it checked out.

OK...quick update. Like I figured, the Canon hood/filter ring vignettes like crazy used on the Color Skopar with a FF camera. So I need to go digging in the stepping ring/filter adapter drawer.

Thanks again to all of you for sharing your thoughts,

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Nov 12, 2013 17:46 |  #22

jdickerson wrote in post #16445290 (external link)
Well...the Color Skopar arrived yesterday...it's a wee brick innit?

Gotta get it out in the world and see if it shoots as well as feels,

Post some pics in the sample thread I linked to earlier once you've had a go with it.


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Nov 12, 2013 17:59 |  #23

Will do, I'm really impressed with the smoothness of the focusing and the overall quality. It really takes me back to my pre-EOS days.

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Nov 15, 2013 14:01 |  #24

OK, I've done some shooting with it and my first impression is...I like it. As was pointed out, it does seem to perform better at or close to infinity. Shots at infinity, or close, are sharper than those done using hyperfocal distance. Noticeably so at the edges. Chromatic aberration is quite strong, but easily tamed in Lightroom.

Does anyone know if there is a Lightroom (4) lens profile for this lens? I think I read that there is but I've searched the Adobe site and can't find one. If there isn't I don't think it will be a big deal as there doesn't seem to be any distortions other than those one would expect from a 20mm lens.

I've only tested it on the 6D so far, I'll get it out on the 7D this weekend I hope.

I'll try to post some photos when I have something more exciting than my driveway and barn!

Really appreciate all the experience and expertise that was shared.

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Nov 15, 2013 14:26 |  #25

jdickerson wrote in post #16454202 (external link)
Does anyone know if there is a Lightroom (4) lens profile for this lens? I think I read that there is but I've searched the Adobe site and can't find one. If there isn't I don't think it will be a big deal as there doesn't seem to be any distortions other than those one would expect from a 20mm lens.

I've only tested it on the 6D so far, I'll get it out on the 7D this weekend I hope.
JD

There are profiles for 5DII and 7D (last time I checked). I use (occasionally) the 5DII profile with my 5Dc. Seems to work fine.
https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=16252792&po​stcount=59


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Nov 16, 2013 15:40 |  #26

Did an architecture shoot this morning, too foggy for any exciting images outside, but got some nice interiors shots.

Tested on 6D and Rebel T3i (shoulda tried the 7D). 6D shots were nice and crisp, T3i shots were OK, I used too high an ISO on it I think, the lens will work fine on either FF or APS-C. Exposures were several seconds (inside Mission La Purissima in Lompoc, CA) and I resorted to "quick and dirty" processing just to check for sharpness issues. I'll clean things up a bit more and try to post later.

Very pleased with the results.

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Nov 17, 2013 23:24 |  #27

jdickerson wrote in post #16456650 (external link)
Did an architecture shoot this morning, too foggy for any exciting images outside, but got some nice interiors shots.

Tested on 6D and Rebel T3i (shoulda tried the 7D). 6D shots were nice and crisp, T3i shots were OK, I used too high an ISO on it I think, the lens will work fine on either FF or APS-C. Exposures were several seconds (inside Mission La Purissima in Lompoc, CA) and I resorted to "quick and dirty" processing just to check for sharpness issues. I'll clean things up a bit more and try to post later.

Very pleased with the results.

JD

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Nov 17, 2013 23:26 |  #28

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Waiting for your photo!

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Nov 18, 2013 14:01 |  #29

OK, here's my first attempt at loading images on this forum. The 6D photo was shot at ISO 100, the T3i was shot at ISO 400. In retrospect, both should have been done at ISO 100 for a fairer comparsion.

I processed both as I normally would including a bit of sharpening. I sharpened at 5x7 inches rather than 1024 pixels so I hope everything holds up.

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Well...it didn't work, I keep getting a "your files too big" warning, although I sized them to 1024 pixels on the long dimension, and both are jpegs.

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Nov 18, 2013 16:20 |  #30

OK, again. Think I figured it out. :lol:

Top is T3i, bottom is 6D.


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