Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EOS Digital Cameras 
Thread started 19 Nov 2013 (Tuesday) 08:19
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

5d iii vs 6d for automotive photography

 
cayenne_ksa
Junior Member
29 posts
Joined Dec 2008
     
Nov 19, 2013 08:19 |  #1

I understand this has been discussed many times but I want to be specific to my need. I'm looking to buy another camera for the following reasons


  1. i want to have FF body
  2. i need another body
current gears
  • canon 7d
  • canon 70-200 2.8 IS L
  • canon 24-70 2.8 L
I shoot cars 90% of the time utilising natural light. Most shots are with presence of tirpod in good lighting conditions ( indoor, shaded areas , or sunset/sunrise time ). No low light. most cars i shoot are still and maybe twice per year I attend a race where i do some panning shots.

my question, is there any good reason to go with 5d iii over 6d? what i care about the most is image quality.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
paddler4
Goldmember
Avatar
1,325 posts
Gallery: 3 photos
Likes: 14
Joined Aug 2009
     
Nov 19, 2013 08:32 |  #2

The 6D is actually better in low light. AFAIK, the biggest consideration in your case might be the AF system. The 6D's AF is pretty low end, while the 5DMKIII has a superb AF system. This will be of no consequence at all for your still shots, but it could make a big difference for races.Never having done that kind of shooting, I don't know how much the AF will matter. Perhaps you could make do with center-point-only on the 6D.


Check out my photos at http://dkoretz.smugmug​.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FarmerTed1971
fondling the 5D4
Avatar
6,959 posts
Gallery: 66 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 4761
Joined Sep 2013
Location: Portland, OR
     
Nov 19, 2013 08:53 |  #3

Go 6D and a new wide lens (and bring the 7D when you go to the races).


Getting better at this - Fuji X-t3 x2 - Fuji X-Pro2 - Laowa 9mm - 16 1.4 - 18-55 - 16-80 - 23/35/50/90 f2 - 50-140 - flickr (external link) - www.scottaticephoto.co​m (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bobbyz
Cream of the Crop
20,505 posts
Likes: 3432
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA
     
Nov 19, 2013 09:17 |  #4

6d is plenty IMHO. Even old 5dc would do.


Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
Sony A7rIV, , Tamron 28-200mm, Sigma 40mm f1.4 Art FE, Sony 85mm f1.8 FE, Sigma 105mm f1.4 Art FE
Fuji GFX50s, 23mm f4, 32-64mm, 45mm f2.8, 110mm f2, 120mm f4 macro
Canon 24mm TSE-II, 85mm f1.2 L II, 90mm TSE-II Macro, 300mm f2.8 IS I

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Scott ­ M
Goldmember
3,270 posts
Gallery: 83 photos
Likes: 364
Joined May 2008
Location: Michigan
     
Nov 19, 2013 09:37 |  #5

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #16463434 (external link)
Go 6D and a new wide lens (and bring the 7D when you go to the races).

^ This. The only advantage of the 5D3 over the 6D in your circumstance is the ergonomics of the 5D3 and 7D are very similar. They also use the same memory type.


Photo Gallery (external link)
Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
milleniumking
Senior Member
Avatar
339 posts
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Mississauga Ontario Canada
     
Nov 19, 2013 12:13 |  #6

If you have the $$$ go with the mark iii. This way you could probably get rid of your 7d and hang on to your lenses.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
VicSkimmr
Senior Member
551 posts
Likes: 12
Joined Oct 2008
Location: Myrtle Beach, SC
     
Nov 19, 2013 12:16 |  #7

There's never a reason to go 6D over 5d3 if money isn't a concern unless you care about the increased weight of the 5d3.

That being said, the 6D should be an excellent automotive body. It's only potential hindrances would be the slow FPS for rolling shots and the 1/4000 shutter speed limit if you shoot into the sun at low apertures, which a lot of people do these days for automotive stuff.


-Jason
[URL="http://www.flick​r.com/photos/jasonwith​ers/"]flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bobbyz
Cream of the Crop
20,505 posts
Likes: 3432
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA
     
Nov 19, 2013 13:42 |  #8

VicSkimmr wrote in post #16463921 (external link)
There's never a reason to go 6D over 5d3 if money isn't a concern unless you care about the increased weight of the 5d3.

That being said, the 6D should be an excellent automotive body. It's only potential hindrances would be the slow FPS for rolling shots and the 1/4000 shutter speed limit if you shoot into the sun at low apertures, which a lot of people do these days for automotive stuff.

f1.4/f2 for cars and needing 1/4000 for rolling shots?


Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
Sony A7rIV, , Tamron 28-200mm, Sigma 40mm f1.4 Art FE, Sony 85mm f1.8 FE, Sigma 105mm f1.4 Art FE
Fuji GFX50s, 23mm f4, 32-64mm, 45mm f2.8, 110mm f2, 120mm f4 macro
Canon 24mm TSE-II, 85mm f1.2 L II, 90mm TSE-II Macro, 300mm f2.8 IS I

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
VicSkimmr
Senior Member
551 posts
Likes: 12
Joined Oct 2008
Location: Myrtle Beach, SC
     
Nov 19, 2013 15:56 |  #9

FPS on a 6D is 4.5, which is on the slow side for rolling shots. I should know, I've done it. Rolling shots are nearly always a spray and pray deal unless you're doing them on the highway. More FPS = more keepers.

and yeah, I've been in situations where I hit the shutter limit. f/2.8 with mid morning light.

IMAGE: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8395/8669687706_705d436910_c.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …/jasonwithers/8​669687706/  (external link)
Drew's NB Miata (external link) by jasonwithers (external link), on Flickr

-Jason
[URL="http://www.flick​r.com/photos/jasonwith​ers/"]flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bobbyz
Cream of the Crop
20,505 posts
Likes: 3432
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA
     
Nov 19, 2013 15:58 |  #10

I don't shoot cars but one can easily stick a ND filter if 1/4000 is an issue.


Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
Sony A7rIV, , Tamron 28-200mm, Sigma 40mm f1.4 Art FE, Sony 85mm f1.8 FE, Sigma 105mm f1.4 Art FE
Fuji GFX50s, 23mm f4, 32-64mm, 45mm f2.8, 110mm f2, 120mm f4 macro
Canon 24mm TSE-II, 85mm f1.2 L II, 90mm TSE-II Macro, 300mm f2.8 IS I

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EverydayGetaway
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
10,828 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 4494
Joined Oct 2012
Location: GA Mountains
     
Nov 19, 2013 20:30 |  #11

bobbyz wrote in post #16464506 (external link)
I don't shoot cars but one can easily stick a ND filter if 1/4000 is an issue.

This.

I shot a car cruise with the 6D and used fast glass for a good portion of it. The lighting conditions were about as awful as you could ever see (Mid-day bright sun, no clouds, 95+ degree heat) which is why I haven't shared bunches of those pics... but the light was intense to the point that even with my lens at f/2 I would've been over 2 stops over-exposed with 1/4000/sec, so the 5D wouldn't have made a difference. Thanks to ND filters it was a non issue.

You'll usually want to use a CPL for shooting cars anyway, in which case you likely won't even need an ND filter.


Fuji X-T3 // Fuji X-Pro2 (Full Spectrum) // Fuji X-H1 // Fuji X-T1
flickr (external link) // Instagram (external link)www.LucasGPhoto.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cayenne_ksa
THREAD ­ STARTER
Junior Member
29 posts
Joined Dec 2008
     
Nov 19, 2013 21:50 as a reply to  @ EverydayGetaway's post |  #12

milleniumking wrote in post #16463915 (external link)
If you have the $$$ go with the mark iii. This way you could probably get rid of your 7d and hang on to your lenses.

VicSkimmr wrote in post #16463921 (external link)
There's never a reason to go 6D over 5d3 if money isn't a concern unless you care about the increased weight of the 5d3.

That being said, the 6D should be an excellent automotive body. It's only potential hindrances would be the slow FPS for rolling shots and the 1/4000 shutter speed limit if you shoot into the sun at low apertures, which a lot of people do these days for automotive stuff.

if there is no difference in image quality at good lighting condition i would rather go with 6d and invest more in gears. so my main concern is image quality

VicSkimmr wrote in post #16464499 (external link)
FPS on a 6D is 4.5, which is on the slow side for rolling shots. I should know, I've done it. Rolling shots are nearly always a spray and pray deal unless you're doing them on the highway. More FPS = more keepers.

and yeah, I've been in situations where I hit the shutter limit. f/2.8 with mid morning light.
QUOTED IMAGE
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …/jasonwithers/8​669687706/  (external link)
Drew's NB Miata (external link) by jasonwithers (external link), on Flickr

I still have my 7d for higher FBS.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cayenne_ksa
THREAD ­ STARTER
Junior Member
29 posts
Joined Dec 2008
     
Nov 19, 2013 21:53 |  #13

correct me if i'm wrong but the main advantage in my case to go with 5d iii is AF system and the ability to use it more for motorsport than 6d. The 7d can make up that.

in terms of image quality at conditions for still cars, it will be the same.

i can sell the 7d and get 5d iii instead of 7d+6d, but as mentioned i prefer to have 2 bodies




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
stang67
Senior Member
Avatar
385 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Mar 2013
Location: Melbourne, Australia
     
Nov 19, 2013 23:30 |  #14

I'd definitely go for the 6D in your position. It should be decent at the track and if you want something with better AF and higher burst rate, you have the 7D. The 5D III would be to replace your 7D, but since you want 2 bodies; 6D+7D no question.


Canon 6D - Canon 1D Mk III - 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II | Σ 105mm f/2.8 | Canon 400mm f/5.6L | Σ 35mm f/1.4 | 17-40mm f/4L
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
OneJZsupra
Goldmember
Avatar
2,378 posts
Joined Aug 2009
Location: Guam
     
Nov 20, 2013 00:55 |  #15

I would go 5d3, your love of cars could take you to the track and having the af system of the 5d could help out a lot.


Gear List | Feed Back | My Site (external link)
YN RF-603 O-ring solution


  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

5,270 views & 0 likes for this thread
5d iii vs 6d for automotive photography
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EOS Digital Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Finsnapper
607 guests, 267 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.