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Nov 19, 2013 06:56 |  #1

I have both. I was wondering what you folks thought of the differences/similariti​es I these lenses optically, and which one, if either you prefer. I know the 50 has a better build. Lets talk optics. (Not necessarily the extra stop on the 50 either)


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Nov 19, 2013 07:30 |  #2

I have had both, ended up selling the 40mm. I found the 40mm to be much better built than the 50mm f/1.8, and also focus faster, and I think it was sharper. I sold it because I found it just felt odd on my camera, just me. Main reason was its f/2.8, and I figured if I am going to own primes, I want fast primes, Because I use primes moslty indoors, I also have a 85f/1.8 that I use 99% of the time for basketball.
I seem to see a lot of 40mm for sale in spurts, I think like me people bought it, tried it, and sold it. IMHO.




  
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Nov 19, 2013 09:09 |  #3

I used to own the 50 f/1.8, and now own a 40mm. I never cared for the 50, as it needed to be stopped down to be sharp, the bokeh was a little strange, and the auto focus performance was terrible. The 40mm is built much better, has decent AF performance, and is sharp wide open. It is very compact, which is another plus -- I can put it in my pocket, or it takes up almost zero space and weight in the camera bag. It makes a great light weight, low profile walk around prime for a full frame body.


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Nov 19, 2013 10:24 |  #4

mark2009 wrote in post #16463254 (external link)
I have had both, ended up selling the 40mm. I found the 40mm to be much better built than the 50mm f/1.8, and also focus faster, and I think it was sharper. I sold it because I found it just felt odd on my camera, just me. Main reason was its f/2.8, and I figured if I am going to own primes, I want fast primes, Because I use primes moslty indoors, I also have a 85f/1.8 that I use 99% of the time for basketball.
I seem to see a lot of 40mm for sale in spurts, I think like me people bought it, tried it, and sold it. IMHO.

+1

I did the same thing except I have the 50 1.4.. if the 40mm was f2.0, I would of kept it. But I am not really interested in a 2.8 prime lens.


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Nov 19, 2013 20:53 |  #5

Lien wrote in post #16463640 (external link)
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I did the same thing except I have the 50 1.4.. if the 40mm was f2.0, I would of kept it. But I am not really interested in a 2.8 prime lens.

I'm opposite with you. I sell the 50f1.4 after I got 40mm. Pancake have better built,
50f1.4 always hunting and miss focus at low light.


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Nov 19, 2013 21:00 |  #6

tat3406 wrote in post #16465258 (external link)
I'm opposite with you. I sell the 50f1.4 after I got 40mm. Pancake have better built,
50f1.4 always hunting and miss focus at low light.

That and the 50mm f/1.8 or f/1.4 that I had needed to be stopped down to be sharp. I didn't like that, so I got rid of them and kept the 40mm. It is so small and light I take it everywhere, even if I don't think I'll use it. It's just a little gem of a lens IMO. I do really wish it was f/2 though.


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Nov 20, 2013 07:36 |  #7

tat3406 wrote in post #16465258 (external link)
I'm opposite with you. I sell the 50f1.4 after I got 40mm. Pancake have better built,
50f1.4 always hunting and miss focus at low light.

I sold my 50 f/1.4 after getting the 40mm pancake, too. I was keeping the 50 f/1.4 as a light weight travel alternative to my 50L, but the pancake works much better for that purpose.


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Nov 20, 2013 08:07 |  #8

Frodge wrote in post #16463200 (external link)
I have both. I was wondering what you folks thought of the differences/similariti​es I these lenses optically, and which one, if either you prefer. I know the 50 has a better build. Lets talk optics. (Not necessarily the extra stop on the 50 either)

The 40mm pancake has a better build, is super-sharp wide open, a better auto-focus and has more blades for a smoother bokeh... no really reason for me to keep a 50mm f/1.8, except for the 1.8 aperture.

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Nov 20, 2013 11:18 |  #9

I have the 40mm pancake. It's sharp from wide open.
AF is very quick.

Never had a 50mm, but I also have the new EF 28 IS... it's even quicker at AF and can get focus in some silly low-light scenarios.


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Nov 20, 2013 19:32 |  #10

I've had both and like the 40 a lot more. Much better pictures and I shoot mine 95% of the time at 2.8. The only difference I saw was the physical depth of field. At close distances it still produces bokeh similar a 1.8 lens, which is the way I usually shoot wide open. Note: I use the term similar loosely here. Overall its a good lens. Although it's not a bokeh machine, it still sees a lot of use.


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Nov 20, 2013 21:45 |  #11
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First of all the 50 1.8 doesn't have better build than the pancake.

IQ wise I'm sure the 50 1.8 @ f2.8 is just as sharp if not sharper than the pancake.

But the pancake is of a size of a pancake, better build quality, smoother and silent focusing.

I'd pick the 50 on ff, but for crop user who wants more of a normal lens, 40mm wins.

At the end of the day, the main deciding factor should always be the focal length imo, unless you are comparing 2 lenses of the same fl.


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Nov 21, 2013 08:38 as a reply to  @ kin2son's post |  #12

I'm re-buying one and deciding which one as a travel prime to be paired with a 6D/17-40L. I've owned the 40mm before and the 50 briefly on the 5D. Looking back at the files, the 40mm files are sharper but the 50mm have more depth. I like the 40's FOV better and the build much better, but the main reason I switched to FF was for the shallower DOF, so the 50 would fit the bill better when the 85 is too long. I may just end up buying both.




  
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Nov 21, 2013 11:17 |  #13

I have the Sigma 30, Canon 50 f/1.4 and the pancake.

This is how I rank them:

40mm > 30mm > 50mm


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Nov 21, 2013 12:21 |  #14

As usual, I want to point out that if you set the 50mm at f2.8, most of the complaints about it go away (Except for pentagon bokeh highlights)

By f2.8 the 50mm is razor sharp and the focus accuracy is much improved with the deeper DOF. Really this can be said at f2.5, which gives the 50mm an advantage.

Makes no sense to compare wide open performance when one is at f1.8 and the other can't even do f1.8.


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Nov 21, 2013 16:50 |  #15

I find the same thing with the 50 at 2.8


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