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Nov 20, 2013 12:25 |  #61

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Do you really need two bodies? You could sell the T5i and pretty much pay for a used non-stabilized Sigma 50-150 or 70-200 f2.8 HSM with nothing out of pocket.

It has always been my intention to sell the other body. It's just getting an offer on it that isn't going to smack me in the backside that is the hard part. Given that it's not that old I don't expect full retail back, but i also don't expect just 300$ either.

I got to mess with a tamron lens today at the local shop and it felt better than the canon one. Sadly I've misplaced my canon promo code to get like 15% off so I think I'm stuck getting the tamron instead of canon :cry:

Thanks for the tips on the training/learning websites. I will def. check them out.


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Nov 20, 2013 12:29 |  #62

Which Tamron are you getting?

A reminder, get a UV filter for it in case you get nailed with a paintball. Protect that front element.


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Nov 20, 2013 12:40 |  #63

M_Six wrote in post #16466845 (external link)
Which Tamron are you getting?

A reminder, get a UV filter for it in case you get nailed with a paintball. Protect that front element.

Was looking at this one: Tamron Lens (external link)


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Nov 20, 2013 15:56 |  #64

Ah, I have that one. Sharp as a tack. Very nice lens. Solidly built, too. You'll love it.


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Nov 20, 2013 18:30 |  #65

M_Six wrote in post #16467357 (external link)
Ah, I have that one. Sharp as a tack. Very nice lens. Solidly built, too. You'll love it.

I hope, because I just bought it tonight.. :cry: Now im broke again! ha!


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Nov 20, 2013 22:13 |  #66

This was shot with the Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 at 200mm wide open. ISO 51200 on a 5D MkIII at 1/1000sec. You might not be able to pull that off with the 7D, but 6400 ISO should be doable. Just try to get +1 or more EV and you'll find the noise easier to deal with in post processing.

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Nov 20, 2013 22:41 |  #67

+1 EV means clipped highlights for sure.


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Nov 20, 2013 23:01 |  #68

Maybe so, but I think from seeing his paintball images the loss of a few highlights will be far outweighed by cleaner images.


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Nov 21, 2013 04:39 |  #69

Then his shutter speeds would have halved and they were already too slow. The real solution here is to get a faster lens than f5.6, really, then learn some post processing techniques.


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Nov 21, 2013 07:22 |  #70

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Then his shutter speeds would have halved and they were already too slow. The real solution here is to get a faster lens than f5.6, really, then learn some post processing techniques.

Word!

About the clipped highlights. You can clip highlights, if the detail lost is not material to the photo. The lace detail on a bride's gown IS material to the photo. The flare off a chrome bumper in an antique car, not so much.


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Nov 21, 2013 07:45 |  #71

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16468737 (external link)
Then his shutter speeds would have halved and they were already too slow. The real solution here is to get a faster lens than f5.6, really, then learn some post processing techniques.

He did. He said above that he bought the Tamron 70-200 f2.8. Hence my suggestion that he may now be able to get some positive EV and still have a decent shutter speed.


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Nov 21, 2013 08:05 |  #72

He was 2 stops underexposed, while being at least one stop shutter speed too slow. The lens will give him 2/3 of what he needs, better but not yet "there". The rest of the way will have to be post processing skills.


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Nov 21, 2013 09:02 |  #73

Agreed. Until he gets into that environment again and gets some test shots, it'll be hard to tell where to go from here. The available light may still not be enough for ETTR shooting.


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Nov 21, 2013 10:39 |  #74

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Agreed. Until he gets into that environment again and gets some test shots, it'll be hard to tell where to go from here. The available light may still not be enough for ETTR shooting.

Sadly I won't be back into that environment again until mid December. I've chatted to some of the staff up there and asked them to put some pressure on the owner to install more/better lights in there. Even from a non-photography standpoint, it is rather dark in there.

I am hoping the new lens will be able to let me shoot at lower ISO's and be able to get better shutter speeds, however we will have to see come December :-/


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Nov 21, 2013 10:57 |  #75

At least you have time to get used to using the lens. Look for other low light environments and see what it can do.


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