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Nov 18, 2013 10:03 |  #1

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First time to shoot at a F1 race. COTA has some nice spots if you have a long lens and don't mind doing a little cropping. Turn 9-10 area is nice. You can get high enough to get over the fences and still not be in the stands. Quite a large area there that goes from Turn 5 to turn 10. All these were shot with a 7D and 70-200 L USM lens.

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Nov 18, 2013 22:00 |  #2

They all seem soft, slightly oof..


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Nov 19, 2013 14:34 |  #3

Yea I thought they were a little soft. But since I'm new to this game I felt like if I posted my suspicions would be proved correct or incorrect. Now if you can tell me how to get ai focus or ai servo to work correctly they won't be. I can't seem to get it to work no matter what I try. I decided to shoot all of these using ai focus. I usually just use single shot banging on the back button and get pretty good results but going to either of the servo modes they get soft. And the first one or two in a sequence are really off focus. But I read that this is the case most of the time with ai focus.

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Nov 19, 2013 15:24 |  #4

griz11 wrote in post #16464288 (external link)
Yea I thought they were a little soft. But since I'm new to this game I felt like if I posted my suspicions would be proved correct or incorrect. Now if you can tell me how to get ai focus or ai servo to work correctly they won't be. I can't seem to get it to work no matter what I try. I decided to shoot all of these using ai focus. I usually just use single shot banging on the back button and get pretty good results but going to either of the servo modes they get soft. And the first one or two in a sequence are really off focus. But I read that this is the case most of the time with ai focus.

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You should be running AI servo. and high speed on the shutter. You need continuous focusing in the AI servo mode with targets moving at 200mph. Its likely moving out of focus before the shutter drops. The AI servo will compensate but will not give you a focus beep confirmation.


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Nov 20, 2013 10:08 as a reply to  @ JTX's post |  #5

Thanks I did some research yesterday and found that out and a couple of other things I needed to set differently. Now its all set up for back button focus in ai servo mode. Did a little practice out by the freeway the cars aren't going that much slower really those were fairly slow areas I was shooting and the photos are nice and sharp now. Only problem its another year before I can try it out :) Going back through the photos and checking out the exif data I found out the exposure was slipping downwards until it was way to slow. Just a lot of things to remember for a newbie. Think I need to move from Av to M so I will watch that more closely. That ai focus mode seems to have problems from what I read.

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Nov 20, 2013 15:48 |  #6

griz11 wrote in post #16466455 (external link)
Thanks I did some research yesterday and found that out and a couple of other things I needed to set differently. Now its all set up for back button focus in ai servo mode. Did a little practice out by the freeway the cars aren't going that much slower really those were fairly slow areas I was shooting and the photos are nice and sharp now. Only problem its another year before I can try it out :) Going back through the photos and checking out the exif data I found out the exposure was slipping downwards until it was way to slow. Just a lot of things to remember for a newbie. Think I need to move from Av to M so I will watch that more closely. That ai focus mode seems to have problems from what I read.

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MotoGP is coming soon :-)


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Nov 21, 2013 15:50 |  #7

griz11 wrote in post #16466455 (external link)
Thanks I did some research yesterday and found that out and a couple of other things I needed to set differently. Now its all set up for back button focus in ai servo mode. Did a little practice out by the freeway the cars aren't going that much slower really those were fairly slow areas I was shooting and the photos are nice and sharp now. Only problem its another year before I can try it out :) Going back through the photos and checking out the exif data I found out the exposure was slipping downwards until it was way to slow. Just a lot of things to remember for a newbie. Think I need to move from Av to M so I will watch that more closely. That ai focus mode seems to have problems from what I read.

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What kind of problems does servo have? This is new to me too.


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Nov 21, 2013 16:58 |  #8

griz11 wrote in post #16466455 (external link)
Thanks I did some research yesterday and found that out and a couple of other things I needed to set differently. Now its all set up for back button focus in ai servo mode. Did a little practice out by the freeway the cars aren't going that much slower really those were fairly slow areas I was shooting and the photos are nice and sharp now. Only problem its another year before I can try it out :) Going back through the photos and checking out the exif data I found out the exposure was slipping downwards until it was way to slow. Just a lot of things to remember for a newbie. Think I need to move from Av to M so I will watch that more closely. That ai focus mode seems to have problems from what I read.

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I wouldn't even worry about the back button and work on your panning. If you are just starting in in motorsports, use TV instead of AV, then work your way up to M. If the lens you are using doesn't have enough AF speed then pre-focus where you want to take the shot. Good luck and keep practicing. Don't make it more complicated than it already is.




  
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Nov 21, 2013 18:17 |  #9

griz11 wrote in post #16466455 (external link)
Thanks I did some research yesterday and found that out and a couple of other things I needed to set differently. Now its all set up for back button focus in ai servo mode. Did a little practice out by the freeway the cars aren't going that much slower really those were fairly slow areas I was shooting and the photos are nice and sharp now. Only problem its another year before I can try it out :) Going back through the photos and checking out the exif data I found out the exposure was slipping downwards until it was way to slow. Just a lot of things to remember for a newbie. Think I need to move from Av to M so I will watch that more closely. That ai focus mode seems to have problems from what I read.

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Not true you dont have to wait. Go to MotoGP in April for the MC races. They usually announce the race dates a few weeks after F1.

On the M manual mode, I would not. You should be using shutter priority mode not Aperature. You want to be able to drag the shutter when needed for some motion shots. You should check out some of the threads in here that covers the 7d. I think its in the child board called " talk ". Using manual mode is for controlled environments IMO like indoors. I've never had any trouble with the 7D in AV TV mode and setting the ISO. The camera is very good at setting proper white balance and other settings for you on the fly.


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Dec 04, 2013 14:25 as a reply to  @ JTX's post |  #10

Bought my tics yesterday :) Hoping my brother doesn't have to leave for the middle east till late March so we can go to Sebring this year as well. I tried out all the suggestions last weekend and came home with a boatload of good shots. These are r/c cars and in my opinion they are much harder to shoot than the full sized cars. Good practice for the big boys free entrance and there are tracks everywhere and they love for photographers to show up and shoot their cars.

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Needless to say I'm a happy camper. Thanks for the tips everyone.

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Dec 14, 2013 05:36 |  #11

Looks like you got it set right now.

Enjoy!


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Dec 19, 2013 22:25 |  #12

RC cars are tough to shoot for sure. They're fast and small, are hard combo to capture.




  
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