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Nov 13, 2013 03:54 |  #31

I pondered this one - and eventually went for the G16 because of fast AF.

I had previously bought the legendary Fuji X100, but couldn't get on with the slow focusing - and sold it.

No good having the potential for superb IQ, if you can't focus quick enough to capture the moment.

I have DSLRs if I need IQ.

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Nov 16, 2013 04:42 |  #32

only thing I hate about the G1X is the macro mode focusing, it will NOT do macro mode up close like the G15 or G16... theres about a foot of room that it needs to do macro mode.... :( but I got a G15 for that safety factor.


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Nov 16, 2013 12:51 |  #33

reole wrote in post #16455559 (external link)
only thing I hate about the G1X is the macro mode focusing, it will NOT do macro mode up close like the G15 or G16... theres about a foot of room that it needs to do macro mode.... :( but I got a G15 for that safety factor.

Reole........Have you tried some of the close up filters available for the G1x, I usually do my macro stuff from about 250mm away and because the G1x sensor is about 6x the surface area of a G15/16 I can crop into the image to get the macro image required.
Its OK getting getting the G15/16 within about 25mm but I always find getting too close always cast a shadow on the subject, unless I use a pen torch of course.


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Nov 17, 2013 17:53 |  #34

I have a 60D with an S100. Did have the G12 as well, but sold it to purchase a Fuji X10. Long story, short, I loved the IQ of the Fuji but couldn't really commit to the learning curve of their clunky menu system. So sold it and am now looking to replace the G12. I appreciate the discussion but have a question. Does anyone know why Canon seems to have moved away from the articulating screens? That was one of the best things about the G12 (and my 60D)?


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Nov 17, 2013 18:17 |  #35

jmooberry wrote in post #16459167 (external link)
I have a 60D with an S100. Did have the G12 as well, but sold it to purchase a Fuji X10. Long story, short, I loved the IQ of the Fuji but couldn't really commit to the learning curve of their clunky menu system. So sold it and am now looking to replace the G12. I appreciate the discussion but have a question. Does anyone know why Canon seems to have moved away from the articulating screens? That was one of the best things about the G12 (and my 60D)?

Probably not to compete or confuse the G1 X and G15 when it was released.


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Nov 17, 2013 18:24 |  #36

The G series has a history of "giveth with one hand and taketh away with the other": lens speed, zoom range, articulated screen, raw capability...


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Nov 17, 2013 22:26 |  #37
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PH68 wrote in post #16406012 (external link)
I'm looking for a smaller camera than my 60D, sas sometimes I don't want to lug it around all the time.

I'm considering a G1x (decent sensor, fold out screen, etc.) or the G16 (faster f-stops).

I used to have a G12 before my 60D so know what the G-series is like to use.

So should I get G1x (my 1st choice) or the newer G16.

i had a g1x and sold it cause it was too slow... havent tried the other G's but i much prefer dslr's now over point and shoots.

it took the nikon p7000 (horrible horrible camera) and g1x (great images, but still slow) to find that out.



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Nov 22, 2013 07:29 |  #38

SamAlfano wrote in post #16410476 (external link)
These were all taken with the G1X earlier this month. Most are HDR.

http://www.flickr.com …x/sets/72157636​755596924/ (external link)

Awesome shots !!




  
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Nov 22, 2013 07:55 as a reply to  @ wolfd's post |  #39

I kinda did the same thing. I had have a 7D/60D and a S100. I wanted something portable but better IQ than the S100. I purchased the G1x for a trip. Although I found it easier to carry than my Dslr, it still was combersome, meaning you had to carry a small bag, like a small camcorder. IQ was simply outstanding, but I hated having to carry a bag, so I always found myself picking up the S100 for family events that I might take pictures, or trips on my motorcycle, etc...in the end I sold it and bought a Sony rx100, even though I been a Canon guy for over 30yrs, IQ better than the S100, but close but not as great as the G1x, but its the size of a S100.....I use it for basically everything now and use my Dslr for sports,
Bottonline: I dont think you can better IQ than the G1x, but go handle it.
If you want the best IQ in a small package, go get a Sony RX100.....Canon has fallen behind
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Nov 23, 2013 18:46 |  #40

SamAlfano wrote in post #16410476 (external link)
These were all taken with the G1X earlier this month. Most are HDR.

http://www.flickr.com …x/sets/72157636​755596924/ (external link)

Those are very nice.


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Nov 24, 2013 04:15 |  #41

mark2009 wrote in post #16471584 (external link)
I kinda did the same thing. I had have a 7D/60D and a S100. I wanted something portable but better IQ than the S100. I purchased the G1x for a trip. Although I found it easier to carry than my Dslr, it still was combersome, meaning you had to carry a small bag, like a small camcorder. IQ was simply outstanding, but I hated having to carry a bag, so I always found myself picking up the S100 for family events that I might take pictures, or trips on my motorcycle, etc...in the end I sold it and bought a Sony rx100, even though I been a Canon guy for over 30yrs, IQ better than the S100, but close but not as great as the G1x, but its the size of a S100.....I use it for basically everything now and use my Dslr for sports,
Bottonline: I dont think you can better IQ than the G1x, but go handle it.
If you want the best IQ in a small package, go get a Sony RX100.....Canon has fallen behind
here I am sorry to say.

Same thing here.. didn't want to lug my 5D II every where so wanted a new portable... went into the store all set to buy the Sony RX100 II knowing that it had the better image quality... however I simply could not get past the ergonomics or the way the settings/menus worked... I really wanted to like this camera! But in the end it just didn't feel right to me. I simply couldn't buy the camera.... I ended up with the G16 and have been very impressed so far!


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Nov 24, 2013 05:06 |  #42

As there seemed to be a concern with focus speed on the G1x I tested this out fully at the Dickensian Festival in Ulverson, Cumbria. The G1x focus had too be quick due to the public crowds walking continually in front of a character subject, so instead trying to select focus target it was set to fully auto with face detection. The auto focus speed was very quick and was only caught out a few times with some musician shots with rapid movement.
The biggest advantage was some shots could be taken above crowd height (over 2 metres) looking up at the tiltable LCD screen something you can't do on a fixed LCD screen

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Nov 25, 2013 19:55 |  #43

One quality I was looking for was "a pocket" size camera, and the G16 fills that need better than the G1.
Smaller sensor, but I love the 'faster' lens, and I'm impressed at the sharpness and good exposure it gives even in poor indoor lighting.
For actual photo work, I use the DSLR.




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Nov 26, 2013 01:00 |  #44

trailguy wrote in post #16479996 (external link)
One quality I was looking for was "a pocket" size camera, and the G16 fills that need better than the G1.
Smaller sensor, but I love the 'faster' lens, and I'm impressed at the sharpness and good exposure it gives even in poor indoor lighting.
For actual photo work, I use the DSLR.

Excellent reasoning which echoes my own.

Looking at my gear list you'll see how my decisions played out. The G16 is the perfect pocket camera...


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Feb 28, 2014 14:46 |  #45

I think all the cameras have advantages and disadvantages, especially for small compact cameras. So, we should think what we need most.
When I decided to buy a new compact camera, I read reviews online, mark down some selected brands and models. I spent 1/2 day at the camera store, tested those cameras and compare side by side. People recommend Sony RX100 is the best compact camera in that price range. Larger sensor, good picture quality but no wifi, 3x zoom, quite small and not handy for me, RX100II is made in China, more expensive. G1X is bigger size, no wifi, slow. G16 picture quality may not as good as RX100 and G1X but micro is very good, good to take portraits, with wifi, good in low light. I choose G16. With good micro, I can take clear document photos. With wifi, I can transfer the pictures to my mobile and can send by email immediately, can post on Facebook. If I want serious photo shooting, I will use my EOS, this G16 is more useful for multipurpose use.
If someone really want to get good picture quality with compact camera, I would like to recommend Sony A7. I already tested that, very nice but too expensive.




  
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