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I don't think I ever gave the 7D enough credit

 
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Nov 23, 2013 06:32 |  #136

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Who said that?

Try holding your mouse pointer over the little emoticon at the end of pwm2's post. That's the clue that he was being sarcastic.


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Nov 23, 2013 07:35 |  #137

Frodge wrote in post #16473879 (external link)
Who said that?

Haven't you been following all debates about the AA filters on Canon cameras?


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Nov 23, 2013 07:39 |  #138

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It is a fact that a cheap lens on a full frame sensor gives better sharpness than an expensive lens on a crop sensor. Just go to DxOMark site.

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Nov 23, 2013 07:40 |  #139

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I think the reason was really because I was never truly happy was due to me never really giving that camera "Good" glass. I've heard this many times over about the 7D needing good glass.

Who here can vouch for that statement? Did you see a big difference from say a 85 1.8 to a 70-200II in the 7D's performance giving that camera good glass. Sharpness related?


1) Stop worrying about absolute sharpness.

2) Focus more on making pleasing photos.

From years of former pixel-peeping, that's the best advice I can give you ;) It has nothing to do with the 7D. FWIW, it's not like the 85/1.8 is a bad lens - maybe you need to stop down a bit. That said, the 70-200 II was awesome. I used it on a 5Dc and really enjoyed it, except for the freakin' weight.

That said, I owned the 7D twice, but unfortunately I almost always picked up my FF camera at the time -- since they were both the same size, why not? Had I shot more wildlife or sports, I probably would have gone for the 7D, but I don't.

Since I use a 15" Macbook Pro now when I edit photos (in native 2880x1800 resolution), noise is almost meaningless to me now - viewing on this screen is almost like viewing a print, and noise disappears rather easily, no matter the camera.


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Nov 23, 2013 07:55 |  #140

A person only needs to visit the 7d picture thread in here to see how well the 7d does on the right hands.
I'm no master photographer but I have hundreds of very good photos withit over the last year.
Some of which have been printed in the Audubon Society magazine. Many are hanging on my walls and other people's walls in various sizes from 11x14 to 16x 20.
My post processing per photo takes under 2 minutes in light room4. The files are not hard to process.
I do wish it had a better sensor for noise and SOOC sharpness and a less aggressive AA filter but it definitely does not stop me from making very good photos with it.



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Nov 24, 2013 04:53 |  #141

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
And you have a very nice Flickr stream to prove it !!


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Nov 24, 2013 07:32 |  #142

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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
And you have a very nice Flickr stream to prove it !!

Thanks Ian.



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Nov 24, 2013 08:06 |  #143

h14nha wrote in post #16475897 (external link)
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
And you have a very nice Flickr stream to prove it !!

+1. Always something interesting and always well presented :)




  
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Nov 24, 2013 11:38 |  #144

The 7D always seemed more like a small 1D than a big xxxD/Rebel, since it has two (2) DIGIC processors like the 1-series bodies, plus 8 fps and an emphasis on a good autofocus system. (plus excellent toughness and environmental protection)

Any camera can produce good images. The 6D is a nice camera, but it reminds me of when the 5D was first released, and some people loved loved loved it, but it had a "so-so" focus system and zero environmental sealing, making it a dust magnet, so it wasn't for every shooting style.

It's not the camera or the system: all of them can produce top images. Find one that fits your shooting style and budget and go crazy. If you know your shooting style/preferences, you need to get a tool that best fits it or you'll never be "satisfied" with it. Only the individual shooter can say if an action-type camera or a studio-type camera or FF or crop is "best" for them. Everything else is fruitless fanboy-ism.




  
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Nov 24, 2013 21:29 |  #145

Had hope to see some real comparisons of the 7D to other Canon FF. For the first 8 pages it was just a cat fight. To bad the OP had to endure it.

Now I've owned the XTi, 50D, 7D, 5DII, 5DIII, 1DIV, and 1DX and some other brands. The 7D is a great camera IMO. It has different trade-offs. Its great at sports, and I was really happy with the AF system compared to the 5DII. I personally think 18 Mpixels is getting to a point, on an APS-C camera where you have to be careful with hi-ISO. But every generation has a camera on the edge of having too many pixels for the noise performance desired by some but not necessarily by all.

I think with its hi-resolution and smaller pixels you would have to have good quality glass to make sure your don't too much defraction at f11. Of course if you used it at f16 or f22 it probably wasn't sharp with any lens.

Sensor wise it might be similiar to the t2i but its AF, build quality, firmware upgrades, frame rate, and features like Micro-adjust make it so much more. I could recommend it still for some.


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Nov 24, 2013 22:04 |  #146

swldstn wrote in post #16477613 (external link)
I think with its hi-resolution and smaller pixels you would have to have good quality glass to make sure your don't too much defraction at f11. Of course if you used it at f16 or f22 it probably wasn't sharp with any lens.

Diffraction is a hard physical phenomenon that is related to aperture and pixel size, but not to good or bad glass.


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Nov 24, 2013 22:22 |  #147

I don't shoot higher than 2.8 on any of my lenses anyway. No diffraction problems here.


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Nov 25, 2013 02:11 |  #148

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I don't shoot higher than 2.8 on any of my lenses anyway. No diffraction problems here.

I use whatever aperture is appropriate for the subject and the image I'm trying to create/capture and would find that sticking to f2.8 would be too limiting.. But hey if that works for you, that's great..


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Nov 25, 2013 04:19 |  #149

swldstn wrote in post #16477613 (external link)
Had hope to see some real comparisons of the 7D to other Canon FF. For the first 8 pages it was just a cat fight. To bad the OP had to endure it

Here's a link to Teamspeeds reviews.

https://photography-on-the.net …amSpeed&query=m​ini-review


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Nov 25, 2013 12:30 |  #150

Geejay wrote in post #16478046 (external link)
I use whatever aperture is appropriate for the subject and the image I'm trying to create/capture and would find that sticking to f2.8 would be too limiting.. But hey if that works for you, that's great..

I was being sarcastic haha. But seriously I shoot alot of 2.8-4 and also 1.4-1.6 then again at F8-F11. my main areas.


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