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Canon 5D III vs. Nikon D800E Test

 
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Nov 24, 2013 13:56 |  #1

For about a year or so, I've been using and been happy with the 5D III, but I've been very curious about the D800E and two weeks ago, I finally got one.
Since then, I've been doing a lot of personal test to see if I want to convert to Nikon or stay with Canon.

Needless to say, D800E is very impressive.

Test 1 - Shadow recovery (Noise and banding)


Same camera settings.
ISO 100
70mm (Nikon 24-70 and Canon 24-70 II)
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Auto WB
Raw file converted to JPEG - No sharpening or noise removal.
LR 4 - Shadows slider to 100 and Blacks slider 100


Here's the original shot.

IMAGE: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3784/11034588923_0e5b433c57_b.jpg

5D III
IMAGE: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3726/11034535186_b3aa52797b_b.jpg

D800E
IMAGE: http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2855/11034601663_c7d7a7c0c6_b.jpg

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Nov 24, 2013 14:43 |  #2

What about at higher ISO ? 1600-6400


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Nov 24, 2013 14:49 |  #3

Yeah, that's the Canon banding in all its striped glory ;)

I also see the typical Canon favors red, Nikon favors green too.

Your results are typical and pretty well known already. Crank up the ISO and let's see what happens for curiosity's sake. :)


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Nov 24, 2013 14:53 |  #4

BrickR wrote in post #16476853 (external link)
Yeah, that's the Canon banding in all its striped glory ;)

I also see the typical Canon favors red, Nikon favors green too.

Your results are typical and pretty well known already. Crank up the ISO and let's see what happens for curiosity's sake. :)


Auto WB on Canon is much nicer than the Nikon.

I'm testing the ISO right now.


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Nov 24, 2013 14:53 |  #5

Wow! :shock:

I'd be interested to see higher ISO's as well, but that is impressive.


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Nov 24, 2013 14:58 |  #6

mchong75 wrote in post #16476719 (external link)
Needless to say, D800E is very impressive.

Test 1 - Shadow recovery (Noise and banding)

Fo shizzle!

But I wish I hadn't seen it :confused:

On the other hand, I hope not to shoot anything that under-exposed ;)


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Nov 24, 2013 18:05 as a reply to  @ LV Moose's post |  #7

The Canon should do a bit better at high ISO and I prefer Canon colors and ergonomics. Both great cameras and should get you the shot.


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Nov 24, 2013 18:17 |  #8

LV Moose wrote in post #16476880 (external link)
Fo shizzle!

But I wish I hadn't seen it :confused:

On the other hand, I hope not to shoot anything that under-exposed ;)

Yes, but the point is to be ABLE to shoot underexposed when needed. When you want to expose for the highlights.

There is a great number of scenarios where you want to preserve the highlights, especially in landscapes, cityscapes, but also in environmental portraits, and lots of other contrasty scenes.

With the D800 (and the new A7R from Sony) you can push the shadows almost limitlessly, and produce a natural looking HDR photo from a single shot! With the 5D3 you need to use GND-filters (if you have a fairly straight horizon) or take take multiple shots (if your subject is static), blend them together in post and fiddle around to get a natural looking result.

So yeah. It is all about ability.




  
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Nov 24, 2013 18:18 |  #9

There's one of the big reasons I'm getting the Sony a7R... For landscape work in tough lighting it's nice to have more latitude to work with.

-Tim

Osiriz wrote in post #16477279 (external link)
Yes, but the point is to be ABLE to shoot underexposed when needed. When you want to expose for the highlights.

There is a great number of scenarios where you want to preserve the highlights, especially in landscapes, cityscapes, but also in environmental portraits, and lots of other contrasty scenes.

With the D800 (and the new A7R from Sony) you can push the shadows almost limitlessly, and produce a natural looking HDR photo from a single shot! With the 5D3 you need to use GND-filters (when you have a fairly straight horizon) or take take multiple shots, blend them together in post and fiddle around to get a natural looking result.



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Nov 24, 2013 18:48 |  #10

Osiriz wrote in post #16477284 (external link)
Yes, but the point is to be ABLE to shoot underexposed when needed. When you want to expose for the highlights.

There is a great number of scenarios where you want to preserve the highlights, especially in landscapes, cityscapes, but also in environmental portraits, and lots of other contrasty scenes.

With the D800 (and the new A7R from Sony) you can push the shadows almost limitlessly, and produce a natural looking HDR photo from a single shot! With the 5D3 you need to use GND-filters (if you have a fairly straight horizon) or take take multiple shots (if your subject is static), blend them together in post and fiddle around to get a natural looking result.

So yeah. It is all about ability.

Yeah, I get all that...

I was trying to make myself feel good about my 5DIII ;)


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Nov 24, 2013 19:11 |  #11

LV Moose wrote in post #16476880 (external link)
Fo shizzle!

But I wish I hadn't seen it :confused:

On the other hand, I hope not to shoot anything that under-exposed ;)

Not under-exposed, but having that much dynamic range - selecting exposure for the table would have killed the window.

The Exmor sensor just allows more options near noon, when the shadows are hard, or when you shoot indoors and still want well-exposed windows without merging multiple exposures.


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Nov 24, 2013 19:36 |  #12

tsdevine wrote in post #16477285 (external link)
There's one of the big reasons I'm getting the Sony a7R... For landscape work in tough lighting it's nice to have more latitude to work with.

-Tim

That’s the path I’m taking, my 5DIII takes care of 70% of my shooting.


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Nov 24, 2013 19:40 as a reply to  @ peteg1's post |  #13

I did a 5DM3 vs D800 vs D3s High ISO comparison here:

http://www.dpreview.co​m/forums/thread/322231​0 (external link)




  
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Nov 24, 2013 19:50 |  #14

Next year we'll see if Canon has finally been able to come up with an answer to the exmor sensor.

I'll be using my EF-glass on the A7R while waiting.


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Nov 24, 2013 20:02 |  #15

Ginga wrote in post #16477451 (external link)
Next year we'll see if Canon has finally been able to come up with an answer to the exmor sensor.

I'll be using my EF-glass on the A7R while waiting.

We can be quite sure that Canon has given tis task a lot of priority.

And I don't think it will take too long until we get a "ta-da" from them. But will it be a 7D2? Their other high-end cameras - 70D, 6D, 5D3, 1Dx - are all very recent. Or do they start a new 3D line with 30-40 MP to match against the D800?


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