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Any opinions on 400 f/4 DO lens ?

 
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Nov 27, 2013 11:21 |  #16

The ones I tried were at Walters Photo Video In Merthyr Tydfil - they were excellent in both condition and IQ. It was about 2 to 3 years ago that I tried the second one. To a small extent I agree with many who bemoan the reduced contrast and muted colours - but both of these issues are not very pronounced and easily fixed in PP. The sharpness and light weight impressed me!
I find this lens strange as many complain about it yet everyone I have met who actually owns one reckon it's the best thing going and would not entertain any change - hope you are pleased with yours!


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Nov 27, 2013 11:26 as a reply to  @ post 16483188 |  #17

If this was good in poor light, I would look into getting one and stick it on a 5d3

Note I said good in poor light, I already have the 300f2.8 but at times are forced to use the 100-400 at 400 in poorish light eg at the Oldtimer Grand Pix as cars are racing off into the sunset

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Nov 27, 2013 14:37 |  #18

johnf3f wrote in post #16484030 (external link)
The ones I tried were at Walters Photo Video In Merthyr Tydfil

Spooky isn't it? That's where mine came from a year ago :cool:

The sharpness and light weight impressed me!

My thoughts exactly but I've not experienced too much in terms of lost contrast, perhaps it's the subjects I choose?!

I find this lens strange as many complain about it yet everyone I have met who actually owns one reckon it's the best thing going and would not entertain any change - hope you are pleased with yours!

I totally agree. People who've used them a while love them and everyone else moans about them. A true Marmite lens if ever there was one! I'm chuffed to bits with mine John :)


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Nov 28, 2013 11:25 |  #19

The muted colours and reduced contrast are not that significant to my eyes, just makes the image look a little flat on the rear screen of the camera - but a touch of pp sorts this.
For reference I think the one you bought may well be the second one I tried. I set up my tripod + 600 F4 L IS + 1D4 in the shop and took some images of a BMW across the road. Then replaced the 600 with the 400DO (same distance from BMW) and took some more shots, a friend did exactly the same with his 1D3. When the images were on our computers we could JUST see that the lacquer on the BMW's bumper had crazed slightly with age, with my 600 at the same distance this barely showed up despite the 200mm advantage. I have several thousand nice sharp images from the 600 - it just seems to me that the 400DO is just that bit better!


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Nov 28, 2013 12:11 |  #20

johnf3f wrote in post #16486511 (external link)
For reference I think the one you bought may well be the second one I tried. I set up my tripod + 600 F4 L IS + 1D4 in the shop and took some images of a BMW across the road. Then replaced the 600 with the 400DO (same distance from BMW) and took some more shots

I do suspect it's the same lens since Gareth said he'd had it about a year before I bought it a year ago (and got 12 month warranty!). Small world when it comes to 400DO's isn't it?

Your tale certainly stacks up with a wildlife photographer near me who ranked his DO on a par with his 500/4 for sharpness and better than his 600. When you also take the lighter weight into account it's quite a nice equation!


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Nov 28, 2013 16:39 |  #21

Currently I feel the DO is the ultimate walkabout wildlife lens due to it's combination of reach, weight and aperture. I do have a Canon 300 F2.8 IS which is great but I would prefer the DO given the choice - not the price though!


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Nov 29, 2013 06:04 as a reply to  @ johnf3f's post |  #22

whats it like in low light? :cool:




  
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Nov 29, 2013 06:13 |  #23

colintf wrote in post #16487915 (external link)
whats it like in low light? :cool:

I've got some cracking shots of the moon and of the ISS if that helps? It was dark at the time ;) Otherwise I tend to be a fair weather photographer and don't tend to do low light stuff.


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Nov 29, 2013 12:44 |  #24

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I've got some cracking shots of the moon and of the ISS if that helps? It was dark at the time ;) Otherwise I tend to be a fair weather photographer and don't tend to do low light stuff.

thankyou :cool:




  
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Nov 29, 2013 18:48 |  #25

johnf3f wrote in post #16486511 (external link)
For reference I think the one you bought may well be the second one I tried. I set up my tripod + 600 F4 L IS + 1D4 in the shop and took some images of a BMW across the road. Then replaced the 600 with the 400DO (same distance from BMW) and took some more shots, a friend did exactly the same with his 1D3. When the images were on our computers we could JUST see that the lacquer on the BMW's bumper had crazed slightly with age, with my 600 at the same distance this barely showed up despite the 200mm advantage. I have several thousand nice sharp images from the 600 - it just seems to me that the 400DO is just that bit better!

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I do suspect it's the same lens since Gareth said he'd had it about a year before I bought it a year ago (and got 12 month warranty!). Small world when it comes to 400DO's isn't it?

OMG, my BMW was parked across the road from Walters in Merthyr about a year ago, it really is a small world :p

@ Colinf, the only person I've known to use a 400/DO loved it until he tried it in low light. He said it struggled, so he dismissed it and bought a 500/4 instead. I'm not saying it as gospel, just something to keep in mind when trying one out..........


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Nov 30, 2013 03:45 as a reply to  @ post 16483188 |  #26

As luck would have it, I came across a great condition 400 DO for a very reasonable price from a fellow POTN member who had recently put his up for sale. I've only had it long enough to try it on some things around the neighborhood, but so far it seems like a winner!

I've never owned the 500 or the 600 f/4, but having used the 70-200 II for several years, I know what a sharp lens is, and I am very happy with this lens so far. Between the quality of this lens and the new f/8 capable firmware on the 5d3, I think I'll be one happy camper! I'll post some shots with it when I find a worthwhile subject. Thanks for all the input guys.


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Nov 30, 2013 17:40 |  #27

h14nha wrote in post #16489131 (external link)
OMG, my BMW was parked across the road from Walters in Merthyr about a year ago, it really is a small world :p

@ Colinf, the only person I've known to use a 400/DO loved it until he tried it in low light. He said it struggled, so he dismissed it and bought a 500/4 instead. I'm not saying it as gospel, just something to keep in mind when trying one out..........

I can't quote the registration as I have now deleted the images but was it a light metallic blue 3 series?


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Dec 22, 2013 02:54 as a reply to  @ johnf3f's post |  #28

Here are a few from the other day. The ability to hand hold this lens does make a big difference. The last 2 are with a Sigma 1.4x TC on the 5d3

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Dec 23, 2013 01:21 |  #29

Stunning shots Colt4570. They certainly show what the DO is capable of. Thanks for posting them.


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Dec 23, 2013 03:48 |  #30

I have just sold my 400MM DO, I'd echo the comments that it is on par with the 300mm F4.

Overall it is an excellent lens but Canon are deluded on their pricing.




  
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