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Looking into getting a T5i

 
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Dec 07, 2013 21:30 |  #1

So first off, I'm new here and looking in getting back into photography. I've been looking around on the forums lately and already enjoy the community!


Sorry if this isn't in the right place, but I'm looking for a new camera. I have a budget of about $800 and I don't want to really go over it. At first, I was going to get the T3i which seem pretty decent for the price. It comes with the kit lens (18-55mm) for about $550. I then started to look at the T4i which seems to be a little better. Then the T5i, which I didn't notice too many differences. But I saw on Amazon you can get the T5i with both 18-55mm STM and 55-250mm STM Lens for about $850 (only a few bucks over my budget). I'm considering this because the STM lens' seem to come in handy for video so you don't get that annoying AF noise. And they seem to be decent for the price.

I'm not looking for the best of the best, just something to get me started back into the hobby and have some fun again. Any suggestions?




  
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Dec 07, 2013 21:31 |  #2

The T5i with the 18-55 and 55-250STM lenses is a fantastic kit to get started with.


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Dec 07, 2013 22:08 |  #3

The T4i and the T5i are 98% the same camera.

You can get a refurbished T4i with kit lens from Canon Direct for $575. Just an option.


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Dec 07, 2013 22:10 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #4

I purchased the t4i kit with those two lenses before the t5i was introduced and have never regretted it. Despite 6 months of effort the weak link is still me. Nonetheless the wife and daughter cherish the photos of our new grandson.

A few weeks ago I rented an "L" lens. It's noticeably better than 2 kit lenses at 100% zoom on images with the same composition. Probably not practically better on 8x10 and smaller images though, not that I actually printed a direct comparison. The 8x10's that I print satisfy everyone that views them.

Hope this helps.


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Dec 07, 2013 22:53 as a reply to  @ TerryMiller's post |  #5

If you have an old Canon Point & shoot you can probably get an additional 20% off the refurb price at canon direct.


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Dec 07, 2013 23:40 |  #6

Make sure you get the STM lenses. The old kit lenses (18-55, 55-250) do not have the STM suffix and they are different (inferior) optical design. The bodies from T3i onwards are fine.


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Dec 08, 2013 06:39 |  #7

Heya,

With your budget you can also look at nice used/refurb stuff and nail down a solid set for your price range.

A used T3i with a 35/50mm prime and 85mm prime or something.
Or you could get the T4i/T5i (same camera really) and a 18-135 lens.

I would focus less on the camera body and focus more on what lens you want.
You say you're getting back into photography, so what are your primary subjects?

If you're into landscapes, portraits, street, macro, etc, whatever, that should tell you what len(s) you might want. The camera itself is less of a concern.

That said, I just bought a Rebel XTi with a lens, grip and batteries, in nearly new condition for $160 from right here on this forum. Throw a nice $300 prime lens on there, and you probably can't tell much difference between it's photos and my more current T4i aside from pixel peeping.

If you just shop around you can really get a ton of camera/lens for your money if you shop used/refurb.

And again, you'll get more out of your purchase if it get something more suited to what you typically will be using it for. A generalist zoom will surely cover most things, but what if you always use it at the short or long end, and wanted wider aperture and sharper images? Try and think about your actual intended use. Then shop.

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Dec 08, 2013 07:59 |  #8

MakisM1 wrote in post #16510095 (external link)
Make sure you get the STM lenses. The old kit lenses (18-55, 55-250) do not have the STM suffix and they are different (inferior) optical design. The bodies from T3i onwards are fine.

Can you elaborate on this? I see nothing on Canon's site with regard to the STM lenses having improved optics. The STM technology refers to the stepping motor used for the auto focus function.

It's certainly possible I missed something.....maybe you can find where Canon states they improved the optics in the STM lenses. I'd be interested to know.


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Dec 08, 2013 08:09 |  #9

The T5i is pretty much equivalent (some would say better) than the 60D. Since the introduction of the 70D, the prices of 60D and T3i have sunk, so they are decent bargains. Going beyond the T3i you will make compromises in the AF, which IMO are not commensurate to the savings.

Don't compromise on the STM lenses.


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Dec 08, 2013 08:15 |  #10

saea501 wrote in post #16510564 (external link)
Can you elaborate on this? I see nothing on Canon's site with regard to the STM lenses having improved optics. The STM technology refers to the stepping motor used for the auto focus function.

It's certainly possible I missed something.....maybe you can find where Canon states they improved the optics in the STM lenses. I'd be interested to know.

Sorry, I didn't see your message. The STM series are completely redesigned optically for the 18-55 STM, 18-135 STM and the 55-250 STM.

For example:

18-55 STM

http://www.dpreview.co​m …5p6_is_stm/spec​ifications (external link)

vs

18-55 II IS

http://www.dpreview.co​m …-5p6_is_ii/specificatio​ns (external link)

13 elements in 11 groups vs 11 elements in 9 groups attest to the fact that they are a different design.

Anecdotal evidence from our forum members supports the fact that the new lenses are sharper.


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Dec 08, 2013 08:17 as a reply to  @ MakisM1's post |  #11

I picked up a 700D a month ago. My travel and 'do everything' camera. Fantastic image quality in a small package.Video is pretty good too.

I've been teaming my 700D with the 40mm f/2.8 for street candids. Works a treat.


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Dec 08, 2013 08:28 |  #12

I just got one, no complaints. now I want a mixer and good mic.


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Dec 08, 2013 15:13 |  #13

I am waiting for a refurb 700D / 18-135 STM package to arrive from Canon.
Hoping it is not stuck in a snow bank somewhere in the Midwest. :D


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Dec 08, 2013 15:18 |  #14

A week ago my niece got a refurb. Canon told her not to use the CLP but gave her $100 off the refurb price as it was a better deal. Refurb stock at the moment isn't great but probably well worth making a call.




  
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Dec 09, 2013 18:26 as a reply to  @ John from PA's post |  #15

You can get the T3I + EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens Free Camera Bag, 32GB Memory Card for 437.00... throw in a Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4.0-5.6 IS II Telephoto Zoom with rebate for 550.00...




  
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