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Nikon Df - The new low light champion (DXOMark)

 
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Dec 13, 2013 12:16 |  #16

You gotta remember that these DxO "sports" scores measure the ISO at which DR drops below a certain point, not noise. If you look at the actual Signal to Noise Ratio charts, the 5Dmk3 and D4 and Df are all the same.


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Dec 13, 2013 12:17 |  #17

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Dec 13, 2013 15:24 |  #18

Considering that it's only a 16mp FF sensor, I would sure hope that it has great low light performance, so it's not really amazing, as it's expected of it.


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Dec 13, 2013 17:14 |  #19

Kolor-Pikker wrote in post #16525039 (external link)
Considering that it's only a 16mp FF sensor, I would sure hope that it has great low light performance, so it's not really amazing, as it's expected of it.

Not all that different from the D4 (16mp) 1DX (18mp) and 6D (20MP). It's performance is impressive.


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Dec 13, 2013 17:20 |  #20

Again, look at what the score tests, it's NOT noise performance.


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Dec 13, 2013 17:28 |  #21

tkbslc wrote in post #16525286 (external link)
Again, look at what the score tests, it's NOT noise performance.

This is the biggest problem with DxO and their ratings. They do indeed offer high quality objective data. They also offer ratings that are highly misleading if you do not understand what you are looking at.

A lot of people really do not understand even the most basic parts of their system.

And very few people understand what happens when you compare sensors of different sizes or different pixel counts. These comparisons are fraught with difficulty given their rating system.


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Dec 13, 2013 17:58 |  #22

Holy crap this thing smoked the 5d3? Though at 16MP it should be easier to do so...




  
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Dec 13, 2013 21:53 |  #23

thedcmule2 wrote in post #16525383 (external link)
Holy crap this thing smoked the 5d3? Though at 16MP it should be easier to do so...

......Only in terms of DR.


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Dec 13, 2013 23:18 |  #24

tkbslc wrote in post #16525790 (external link)
......Only in terms of DR.

and High ISO and color depth.....


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Dec 14, 2013 01:15 |  #25

tkbslc wrote in post #16525790 (external link)
......Only in terms of DR.

And as a babe magnet.




  
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Dec 14, 2013 02:40 |  #26

Good score! but anything help to the sale? the selling price was decrease 10% only after a month launch, the quantity of sale seem not good..


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Dec 14, 2013 08:09 |  #27

tat3406 wrote in post #16526141 (external link)
Good score! but anything help to the sale? the selling price was decrease 10% only after a month launch, the quantity of sale seem not good..

I think the important thing with this camera is not so much it's sales figures, it is targeted to a niche market after all, but the advancement of the technology. This is where I see a difference between Canon and other players. Canon seems to have stalled in the when it comes to IQ. But other manufacturers are really pressing ahead with their technology.

This camera may not be a record seller but the fact they Nikon put out a camera which outperforms their top of the line model is significant and a sneak peek into what is to come.


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Dec 14, 2013 10:54 |  #28

Nikon reported they can't keep up with demand in Japan for the DF. Production is 15k per month.




  
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Dec 14, 2013 17:08 |  #29

Certainly some impressive numbers. But can the 39-point AF system keep up in dark conditions?




  
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Dec 14, 2013 22:47 |  #30

Shadowblade wrote in post #16527494 (external link)
Certainly some impressive numbers. But can the 39-point AF system keep up in dark conditions?

I've used the D600 in weddings and it kept up no problem. After 17k in actuations, I'm confident it can shoot low light. Even though the camera has all the fancy retro dials, it can still be used as a regular DSLR.




  
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