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What is your lens of choice for Basketball?

 
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Dec 07, 2013 08:04 |  #31

Good i have 3 or 4 of recommended lenses mentioned in this thread, i remember i started sports with indoor sports including basketball and handball, i was using 1D2n with 70-200 mk1 and the club i was shooting in has not much good lighting but not so bad, they changed the lighting and now became better last time i checked but never shoot, i am sure if i go back again there and using 1DX i will be enjoying having nice results with reasonable settings.

Sure i will use primes more than the zoom, but it is no hard to keep a zoom aside just in case.


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Dec 07, 2013 11:05 |  #32

Just an FYI. One thing I always try and shoot is a white balance card in the gym and use that to sync the WB for all my photos.

Bob, I am going to give the 300 a try this season. I see where quite a few have used this lens and gotten excellent results.


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Dec 07, 2013 11:15 |  #33

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Just an FYI. One thing I always try and shoot is a white balance card in the gym and use that to sync the WB for all my photos.

Yes, very good point. I actually set a custom white balance in my camera, actually I have it saved in my camera so I can recall it. I find that if you do it later in LR it seems to adjust the exposure as well. If you do it in the camera both the WB and exposure can be correct.

I strive to not have to do much to my pictures except throw most of them out and crop the keepers a bit. Makes for pretty quick post processing workflow.


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Dec 07, 2013 11:17 |  #34

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Yes, very good point. I actually set a custom white balance in my camera, actually I have it saved in my camera so I can recall it. I find that if you do it later in LR it seems to adjust the exposure as well. If you do it in the camera both the WB and exposure can be correct.

I strive to not have to do much to my pictures except throw most of them out and crop the keepers a bit. Makes for pretty quick post processing workflow.

Are your referring to Jpegs or Raw?


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Dec 08, 2013 11:30 |  #35

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Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II on a 5D III.

Same thing here. In my home gym there is no room to get on the baseline and no second story so I either sit or stand in the corner and take what I can get.


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Dec 11, 2013 07:02 |  #36

I have been using either the 100 or the 135mm f/2.0
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Dec 15, 2013 21:55 as a reply to  @ Joemt's post |  #37

Mostly shoot from the baseline. under the basket or at the end. Got to watch those refs!!!
Up in the stands sometimes.




  
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Dec 16, 2013 01:29 |  #38

sun5150 wrote in post #16530483 (external link)
Mostly shoot from the baseline. under the basket or at the end. Got to watch those refs!!!
Up in the stands sometimes.

Haha yeah sometimes they stand directly in the way.




  
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Dec 16, 2013 10:15 |  #39

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The lighting at the gym I shoot at usually is fairly dim. I've tested my 70-200 f/4, its sharp and zoom-able but grainy due to high ISO.Next I tried out my nifty fifty @ f/2, I was able to come out with more keepers but it is noticeably less sharp in most shots. However using a lower ISO gave me a cleaner image. What is your go to lens for basketball?

1) 70-200 f/4 @ f/4 ISO 3200 SS 400:


2) 50 f/1.8 @ f/2 ISO 1000 SS 500:

The long-established standard indoor basketball lens is a 70-200mm f/2.8, of which there are units available for EF-mount cameras from Canon, Tamron and Sigma.

Examples from a non-stabilized Sigma unit.

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Lens: 70-200mm
Image Date: 2012-12-22 09:29:43 (no TZ)
Focal Length: 118.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0020 s (1/500)
ISO equiv: 6400
Exposure Bias: none
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Image Date: 2012-12-15 13:24:10 (no TZ)
Focal Length: 86.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0013 s (1/800)
ISO equiv: 6400
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Camera Maker: Canon
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Image Date: 2013-02-28 17:55:56 (no TZ)
Focal Length: 104.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0016 s (1/640)
ISO equiv: 6400
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Partial
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Along with the lens, effective available-light basketball photography can be helped by using an extremely high ISO to allow an action-stopping shutter speed. High ISO noise is easily controlled with noise reduction software,  (external link)which was used in these ISO 6400 examples.

To achieve the correct exposure, an incident meter reading is helpful. A meter was used (external link) to get the exposure settings for the above examples. Finally, a custom white balance is needed to compensate for indoor light.

After those factors are handled, it's time to pursue peak action. No matter which lens or settings or software are used, the camera still needs to be pointed in the correct direction at the critical instant.



  
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Dec 21, 2013 08:26 |  #40

So maybe you guys can help with my dilemma. I do mostly outdoor sport shooting but have also shot some Futsal (indoor soccer) using my lens collection, and I have a lens collection that's more than adequate for that as well as the other shooting I do (i.e. I really don't want more lenses if I can get away with it). I have an opportunity for some paid work to shoot youth basketball, and I'm wondering if I can get away with what I have or if I really should add to it. I don't have the 85 1.8 or the 135 f2, but I do have the 70-200 f2.8 II, the 85L, and the 200 f2L. I've never tried using the 85L for sport shooting and think the focusing is probably going to be too slow (too much glass to move around). The other lenses should work fine, especially on the longer end. I'm also shooting with the 1dx and sometimes the 1d4. Both work well in the noise department. I've gone back and forth about the 85 1.8 and whether or not to pick one up, mostly for its faster focusing than the 85L. What do you think? Thanks.


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Dec 21, 2013 09:09 |  #41

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So maybe you guys can help with my dilemma. I do mostly outdoor sport shooting but have also shot some Futsal (indoor soccer) using my lens collection, and I have a lens collection that's more than adequate for that as well as the other shooting I do (i.e. I really don't want more lenses if I can get away with it). I have an opportunity for some paid work to shoot youth basketball, and I'm wondering if I can get away with what I have or if I really should add to it. I don't have the 85 1.8 or the 135 f2, but I do have the 70-200 f2.8 II, the 85L, and the 200 f2L. I've never tried using the 85L for sport shooting and think the focusing is probably going to be too slow (too much glass to move around). The other lenses should work fine, especially on the longer end. I'm also shooting with the 1dx and sometimes the 1d4. Both work well in the noise department. I've gone back and forth about the 85 1.8 and whether or not to pick one up, mostly for its faster focusing than the 85L. What do you think? Thanks.

Youth basketball in our area is nearly always played in the smaller gyms with less room on the sidelines and horrible lighting. I would love to have a 1dx to use with my 70-200 f/2.8 IS lens. That would be the perfect gear in our gyms. I tried my 85mm lens one time so I could shoot at f/2 and found the focal length to be a problem on most shots. It was too long for under the basket shots and too short for players out in the floor.


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Dec 21, 2013 09:11 |  #42

I wouldn't think you need the 85 1.8 if you already got the 70-200. If you will be doing multiple games I would try what you have first it's a go to lens for sports. It will keep up with youth.


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Dec 21, 2013 09:22 |  #43

sdipirro wrote in post #16544504 (external link)
So maybe you guys can help with my dilemma. I do mostly outdoor sport shooting but have also shot some Futsal (indoor soccer) using my lens collection, and I have a lens collection that's more than adequate for that as well as the other shooting I do (i.e. I really don't want more lenses if I can get away with it). I have an opportunity for some paid work to shoot youth basketball, and I'm wondering if I can get away with what I have or if I really should add to it. I don't have the 85 1.8 or the 135 f2, but I do have the 70-200 f2.8 II, the 85L, and the 200 f2L. I've never tried using the 85L for sport shooting and think the focusing is probably going to be too slow (too much glass to move around). The other lenses should work fine, especially on the longer end. I'm also shooting with the 1dx and sometimes the 1d4. Both work well in the noise department. I've gone back and forth about the 85 1.8 and whether or not to pick one up, mostly for its faster focusing than the 85L. What do you think? Thanks.

At actual basketball games, the main coverage lens is and has been a 70-200mm f/2.8. Some photographers switch to a 24-70mm f/2.8 or a 300mm f/2.8.

Here's an image from a Big Ten game that demonstrates what is used.


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Two of the baseline photographers were using 70-200mm f/2.8 lenses when the action was right in front of them, and another photographer was using a 24-70f/2.8. You'll also note a 300mm f/2.8 on the floor that one photographer has mounted to a second body.

This is and has been how it's generally done. Also note the baseline photographers' hand positions show they're using vertical framing. This is a standard technique.



  
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Dec 21, 2013 20:51 as a reply to  @ DC Fan's post |  #44

That's great information. Appreciate the input very much!


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Dec 21, 2013 23:07 |  #45

When you say youth, what age are talking? I ask because if they are smaller, then you definitely should have no problem framing them. Try the 85L as the kids are slower than say high school or college kids and see what you get, it won't hurt. The 70-200 should cover pretty much all you need. One thing to note, at least where I shoot, I can get closer to the baseline than what DC Fan posted, so I will try the 24-70 this year and see how it goes. I remember at one game, the Washington Post guy used the 24-70 under the boards and got a beautiful shot of a dunk, where I was at the corner of the baseline and got the shot, but not like he had under the boards with all the faces and facial expressions. It all depends on what type of shots you are after and where you can position yourself.


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