Just the feel of the paper not the life of it. I prefer a black and white film print to a digital print of the same photo. The paper you use in film I just find gives a nicer finish.
tbrasington Senior Member ![]() 269 posts Joined Oct 2005 Location: London,Uk More info | Jun 24, 2006 12:32 | #16 Just the feel of the paper not the life of it. I prefer a black and white film print to a digital print of the same photo. The paper you use in film I just find gives a nicer finish. 7D | Speedlite 430 EX | 17-35mm f/2.8 L| 24-70mm f/2.8 L | Sigma 30mm f/1.4 | Flickr
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liza Cream of the Crop 11,386 posts Likes: 1 Joined Feb 2005 Location: Mayberry More info | Jun 24, 2006 12:34 | #17 ![]() It depends on the digital camera you're using. If you're talking about one of the 1 series bodies with higher resolution, then, yes, I'd say it's very comparable to film. Black and white film images, IMO, are superior to digital black and white, however.
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steved110 Cream of the Crop ![]() 5,776 posts Likes: 2 Joined Dec 2005 Location: East Sussex UK More info | I'd love an Eos 3 - or an Eos 1N - the prices of both of these on the used market have taken a real tumble. the 1V is a great camera - the best a film can get - but the used prices are still too high, and there's so much other stuff I want! Canon 6D
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jsimon724 Member 201 posts Joined Dec 2005 More info | Jun 24, 2006 13:50 | #19 Only problem with getting a 3 or (especially) a 1v is that after using one of these a few times your 20d will feel like a toy and you'll be trying to figure out where to get the money for a 1-series digital.
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SuzyView Cream of the Crop ![]() More info | Jun 24, 2006 18:56 | #20 Not really. My 10D is as heavy as my EOS 3, they are very similiar. The 20D is slightly lighter than the 10D, but I think is a better camera. So, I use all 3 about the same. EOS 3 is like an old Lexus, 10D a Honda Accord and the 20D a Toyota Avalon. Suzie - Still Speaking Canonese!
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tbrasington wrote: Because you can't get the same results out of digital. The feel to photo paper is very different. say what? -Jim
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ecalpemos Member ![]() 218 posts Joined Feb 2006 Location: England More info | I think you should get a canon eos 1000f, cause then I can sell you my old one-special price just for you
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Big Hands Goldmember 1,464 posts Likes: 1 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Southern California More info | Jun 24, 2006 21:22 | #23 I think a camera like the Elan 7E is very similar to the 20D and would make a great companion to it, especially for the price they are going for used these days: about $150, which is about 1/3 of what they cost new. Canon 20D w/grip, 300D, Powershot SX100 w/HF-DC1 flash, Canon 70-200 f/2.8L, 85 f/1.8, 17-55 f/2.8 IS, 50 f/1.8, 580EX and some other stuff...
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dpastern Cream of the Crop 13,765 posts Likes: 3 Joined Aug 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland, Australia More info | Jun 24, 2006 21:29 | #24 ![]() My advice - pick up a used 1n with booster. 1V's are too expensive still, even 2nd hand.
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mbze430 Goldmember ![]() 2,454 posts Joined Feb 2005 Location: Chino Hills More info | Jun 25, 2006 01:00 | #25 I still shoot film, especially when it comes to B&W. Digital B&W is not the same as digital. I do both 35mm and 6x4.5MF for film. Gear List
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grego Cream of the Crop ![]() 8,819 posts Likes: 2 Joined May 2005 Location: UCLA More info | Jun 25, 2006 01:53 | #26 Hard to beat the great value of an EOS 3. It's got traits that you see in 1 series cameras but also gives you the similar feel for a 10/20/30D. Go UCLA
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tbrasington Senior Member ![]() 269 posts Joined Oct 2005 Location: London,Uk More info | jwkramer wrote: say what? I shot film/slides for years... had a full color darkroom, 2 enlargers, color processor... I've printed from slides, negs, 35mm, and medium format - and I gotta say my Mark II outputs higher quality printed results than any 35mm stuff that came out of the darkroom. In my opinion it gives my old Mamiya 645 Pro TL a run for it's money as well. I still think that medium format probably has an edge over the 1.3x 8MP sensor in my DSLR, but I bet a 1DS MkII would beat the Mamiya in a head-to-head comparison. I don't understand your comment on "feel"... what are you printing on? The high quality photo paper that I use is virtually indistinguishable from Kodak color paper - I've used both (in terms of weight, feel, gloss, etc.) I agree that digital matches, surpasses film now in terms of quality. I just really like the grain/noise that you get on film. I admit that I use film a lot outside of photography. I use a lot of acetate and type as you can get some great results for graphics but this is way off topic. 7D | Speedlite 430 EX | 17-35mm f/2.8 L| 24-70mm f/2.8 L | Sigma 30mm f/1.4 | Flickr
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johneo Goldmember ![]() 1,428 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2003 Location: North Kingstown, RI More info | I've got a 10D and decided to get a new film camera that could use my EF lenses and fits in 1 camera bag as well, rather than lugging around 2 camera bags. I went with an Elan 7ne. Great camera and although I had wished for a better model (more $$$) it serves it's purpose very well. 2 - 5DMKII's, Powershot SX 150 IS
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ybmtnt Member ![]() 30 posts Joined Feb 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, Trinidad More info | Jun 25, 2006 12:02 | #29 mrterrible wrote: Hi I was wondering if somebody can help me. I have a Canon 20D and I wanted to get a film based camera as a backup. I don't know much about film slr camera's but I want a nice one that I can use my lens from the 20d. Can somebody please help. Plus I don't have that much money but I want I nice one. Thank You I've got a EOS T2 SLR as a backup to my Rebel XT. The T2 uses both my EF lenses (see signature) and my 430EX flash. The T2 is a great 35mm SLR, give it a try. Canon EOS 6D Full Frame DSLR
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Ocean Blue Senior Member ![]() 355 posts Joined Mar 2006 Location: Western New England More info | tbrasington wrote: I agree that digital matches, surpasses film now in terms of quality. I just really like the grain/noise that you get on film. I admit that I use film a lot outside of photography. I use a lot of acetate and type as you can get some great results for graphics but this is way off topic. Just that film will always have a use for me. Mmm. A different feel altogether - and often a very pleasing one, I agree. The layering of the reactive particles on color film is said by some to give a different depth to images. I've read that fujifilm is working on a digital sensor that will layer the red green and blue sensors on top of each other to try and mimic this but it's years out. Of course, fine grain film is something like the equivilent resolution of 25 MP in the digi world, but the whole thing - with how the light hits the film particals differently than a digital sensor - does give a different feel. I also like the notion - with an older body - of being able to do photography without needing electricity at all - just a mechanical device, with a lens and a chemical reaction. In 1934, Yoshida succeeded in producing a prototype of the first domestically made 35mm focal-plane shutter camera. A believer of the Buddhist faith, he named it "Kwanon" after the Goddess of Mercy, and placed an advertisement for "Kwanon Cameras" in the June 1934 issue of Asahi Camera magazine. - Canon Global History Page - Current Equipment FS items https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php?t=1228198
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