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Dec 15, 2013 11:25 |  #16

Talley wrote in post #16527160 (external link)
I see this as a "normal preference".

what gives.

Having the subject looking back into the frame leads the viewers eye back into the photo. It helps to graphically balance out the negative space. By posing the subject looking out of the frame you are creating tension which can work but its generally less pleasing if you are Trying to convey a sense of comfort or ease.




  
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Dec 15, 2013 11:59 |  #17

Nice and strong contrast...
For a first attempt you did very well, so congrats. It is moody and effective. The light is a bit hard, but that can be good in this case. It depends on the mood you are trying to set. If you wanted a softer look then a softbox or beauty dish and maybe fill light from behind to remove some of the shadows. It all depends on your ultimate vision for the photo..




  
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Dec 15, 2013 13:04 |  #18

Syl Arena wrote a great book, "The Speedliter's Handbook" which does not do a lot with the 600 series Canon speed light, but does address everything using the 580EXII and 430 series flashes. I liked it because it talks 95% lighting theory and real-life and 5% features of flash.


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Dec 15, 2013 15:27 |  #19

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Dec 15, 2013 15:29 |  #20

This photo isn't designed to give you a sense of comfort, so the composition works IMHO.

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Dec 15, 2013 19:53 |  #21

Here's a comparison from Gary Fong himself in regards to his collapsible lightsphere.
http://www.youtube.com …TBkJ6N_LhDKQKm2​PAHkgXYc07 (external link)


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Dec 16, 2013 09:32 |  #22

smooth3000 wrote in post #16530230 (external link)
Here's a comparison from Gary Fong himself in regards to his collapsible lightsphere.
http://www.youtube.com …TBkJ6N_LhDKQKm2​PAHkgXYc07 (external link)

In which he compares them to other small and effectively useless (for the task) modifiers for off camera flash. Notice he doesnt show you how its superior to a shoot through umbrella.




  
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Dec 16, 2013 14:02 |  #23

gonzogolf wrote in post #16531326 (external link)
In which he compares them to other small and effectively useless (for the task) modifiers for off camera flash. Notice he doesnt show you how its superior to a shoot through umbrella.

These tests were all done with a speedlight + modifier on camera to show you the difference between them. So comparing his modifier to a shoot through umbrella is like comparing oranges to apples.

But yes, I would agree that starting with a basic shoot through umbrella beats any flash on your camera.


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Dec 16, 2013 14:04 |  #24

smooth3000 wrote in post #16532025 (external link)
These tests were all done with a speedlight + modifier on camera to show you the difference between them. So comparing his modifier to a shoot through umbrella is like comparing oranges to apples.

But yes, I would agree that starting with a basic shoot through umbrella beats any flash on your camera.

I was just making clear to the OP who might watch that and somehow come to the impression that a lightsphere would actually improve his off camera photography.




  
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Dec 16, 2013 14:06 |  #25

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I was just making clear to the OP who might watch that and somehow come to the impression that a lightsphere would actually improve his off camera photography.

I don't think Gary Fong designed the lightsphere to be used off camera.


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Dec 16, 2013 14:09 |  #26

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I don't think Gary Fong designed the lightsphere to be used off camera.

No, but if you read the entire thread the OP was asking if he should buy one for that purpose.




  
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Dec 16, 2013 14:33 |  #27

Well hopefully we answered his question.


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Dec 16, 2013 17:11 |  #28
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smooth3000 wrote in post #16532035 (external link)
I don't think Gary Fong designed the lightsphere to be used off camera.

Actually I just saw a youtube video where Gary himself explains the lighting differences of his Lightspere vs Umbrella off camera. Of course the Lightsphere won ;)




  
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Dec 16, 2013 17:29 |  #29

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Actually I just saw a youtube video where Gary himself explains the lighting differences of his Lightspere vs Umbrella off camera. Of course the Lightsphere won ;)

Light sphere, ftw! Haha


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Dec 16, 2013 20:56 |  #30

I wouldn't think about using the Lightsphere for off camera flash, I originally asked about it to soften the light. Once I get my umbrella and lightstand (UPS says tomorrow), I'll give it another try, well probably once finals are over.




  
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