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Tamron astonishes the world with price of upcoming 150-600mm VC USD

 
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Dec 16, 2013 15:28 |  #31

you can see 100% view on these 150-600 samples
just click the image or the square in the viewer
be patient as it takes a few moments to load the image

http://blog.naver.com/​sp_marketing/701800427​43 (external link)


those are some nice looking samples
If the lens is consistently sharp at 600mm F6.3, focus can follow bird in servo mode, and IS aids steadiness this is a fantastic

Tamron may hit one of of the ballpark with this lens




  
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Dec 16, 2013 15:42 |  #32

I agree 100%!! We will know soon I hope.

abqnmusa wrote in post #16532276 (external link)
you can see 100% view on these 150-600 samples
just click the image or the square in the viewer
be patient as it takes a few moments to load the image

http://blog.naver.com/​sp_marketing/701800427​43 (external link)


those are some nice looking samples
If the lens is consistently sharp at 600mm F6.3, focus can follow bird in servo mode, and IS aids steadiness this is a fantastic

Tamron may hit one of of the ballpark with this lens


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Dec 16, 2013 19:11 |  #33

jbrackjr wrote in post #16531402 (external link)
^^Well if you said a 400 with TC I would agree. The 100-400 is a great lens, but with a TC it's pretty bad.

Pretty bad at what? AF may be compromised, but a good copy of the 100-400 should be fairly pixel-sharp with a 1.4x. When things all come together, I get fairly pixel-sharp results with the 100-400 and the 2xIII on my 6D.

I shoot my 100-400 at 800mm with the 2xIII all the time. I can't see any visible loss of global contrast, and there's always more detail than with cropping, unless I have to rely on AF for a BIF or such, in which case a pixelated bird is better than one with a lot of pixels, but out of focus.

If that is all the Tamron could do at 600 I think most people would be disappointed.

There's one plus that's a given, though. More subject light, due to the larger aperture, and therefore, less noise. The Tamron, wide open, gathers almost a stop more subject photons than a 400/5.6.

I would take the Canon ps super zoom over using a TC on my 100-400.

I feel very compromised when using my SX50 compared to my 100-400 with a 2x.




  
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Dec 17, 2013 00:21 |  #34

jbrackjr wrote in post #16531290 (external link)
Price is actually too good to be true....makes me a little skeptical about the IQ and focus speed your going to get.

That is my initial reaction.

If Canon made one, it would probably be around $4,000, but we would know for sure that IQ and build quality would be stellar, as they are with all of Canon's more recent supertelephoto introductions.

At a thousand bucks, I simply do not see how they could build it like a tank and also put Ultra-low Dispersion and/or fluorite elements into it. Maybe they found a way to do this, but it seems impossible from an economic standpoint.

The versatility of a 150-600mm lens would be very useful, and a must-have even at twice the price . . . if the IQ and build quality are there.


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Dec 17, 2013 01:15 |  #35

wow... that's a great price, i'll be looking to pick up a used one in a year or so when prices are down :D

have you guys seen much for Tamron VC lenses that have had poor IQ or quality overall?


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Dec 17, 2013 02:40 |  #36

I do not mind it being a plastic lens, plastic may mean "flimsy and breakable" to some but to me it means lightweight and portable. :) Of course Tamron must have saved money somewhere, so lets wait and see.

Bearing in mind most long zooms need stopping down to f8 for best sharpness anyway, I will waiting for some 600mm f8 sample from real wold use.


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Dec 17, 2013 02:46 |  #37

Talley wrote in post #16531129 (external link)
I don't agree with easier to carry with. The 100-400 is 3.5" diameter x 7.5" long and 3lbs. This Tamron is 4.2" in diameter 10.15" long and 4.3 lbs

It's definitely bigger!

Unless you meant carrying this instead of BOTH 100-400 and 500 then yes I would agree. This would be a one lens covers all outdoor solution for length.

At the moment one needs to carry a Sigma 150-500/100-400 and a 500f4 (and TC) or 600f4 to get to 600 or more. So now if I were travelling I could take one lens, a drop in IQ maybe but way less to carry (great on a backpack trip or family holiday). My definition is not everyone definition of travel, my usual "travel" kit was 24-105, 300 2.8 and 500 f4... :) but I sold the 300 and now have the 120-300. :rolleyes: and since we are talkiing about a 600mm lens I figured most people would be looking at this from a similar position (having multiple lenses to cover the same range).


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Dec 17, 2013 02:56 |  #38

Tom Reichner wrote in post #16533494 (external link)
At a thousand bucks, I simply do not see how they could build it like a tank and also put Ultra-low Dispersion and/or fluorite elements into it. Maybe they found a way to do this, but it seems impossible from an economic standpoint.

They probably didn't "build it like a tank". In the advertisement/specs it doesn't say that it has any ULD or flurite elements. Of all these features the closest thing is that they used a few LD elements. So it's probably safe to guess it doesn't have any of those things. BTW those $70 are maybe insignificant for some poeple buying it but it is 7% more than a thousands which is significant (imagine getting a 7% raise, for example).

Tom Reichner wrote in post #16533494 (external link)
The versatility of a 150-600mm lens would be very useful, and a must-have even at twice the price . . . if the IQ and build quality are there.

"There" being the critical issue... it's very different depeneding on the buyer. For you it is a "must have" for even twice the price and it sounds like you would buy a similarly speced (i.e. 150-600mm f/5-6.3) from Canon if it was better. But many won't.

I think people saw the specs and there was a weird online hype that it would be close to a prime lens. But just because it's not doesn't mean it is not a good lens at a price that is reasonable. Just as people were going crazy about it they are in a hurry to bury it as a good lens because of the price.


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Dec 17, 2013 03:12 |  #39

racketman wrote in post #16531051 (external link)
For UK price do not convert $ to £ just change $ to £.

Nick_Reading.UK wrote in post #16531096 (external link)
Ha Ha.. so true..


Consider though UK prices will have 20% vat added by default and the US prices do not inc local state taxes that will have to be added.


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Dec 17, 2013 04:06 |  #40

clarnibass wrote in post #16533662 (external link)
I think people saw the specs and there was a weird online hype that it would be close to a prime lens. But just because it's not doesn't mean it is not a good lens at a price that is reasonable. Just as people were going crazy about it they are in a hurry to bury it as a good lens because of the price.

Prior to the announcement of the price, I think most were hopeful that it would be close to a prime in performance (expecting a much higher price tag). However, after the price became known, a lot of us are skeptical that the lens can deliver good IQ as well as fast and accurate focusing. Hell, we would all like to see Tamron produce a winner here (except mabe Canon :)).

If it works as well as my 100-400 (without the TC, thank you very much!) I will get one for sure.


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Dec 17, 2013 08:13 |  #41

jbrackjr wrote in post #16533717 (external link)
Prior to the announcement of the price, I think most were hopeful that it would be close to a prime in performance (expecting a much higher price tag). However, after the price became known, a lot of us are skeptical that the lens can deliver good IQ as well as fast and accurate focusing. Hell, we would all like to see Tamron produce a winner here (except mabe Canon :)).

If it works as well as my 100-400 (without the TC, thank you very much!) I will get one for sure.

I don't think anybody was expecting Prime performance. I just want it to match or beat the Sigma 50-500 at max zoom, and I'll be happy with it.


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Dec 17, 2013 09:22 as a reply to  @ archer1960's post |  #42

Have you guys actually taken a look at the sample pictures? they really don't look half bad for a 4x zoom. Actually, they look extremely good for any kind of zoom. Doubly so for one at this price point.

Is it better than a 600 f4? nope. But it is a zoom which does give it some versatility. However, at 10% of the price of the 600 f4L I think it looks fantastic.

Built like a tank? probably not. Weatherproof, probably not. But if you destroy one every three years you still have a long time before it ends up costing what the Canon did.

As above, it has been a stellar year for the third party manufacturers. I know that the "I only own/shoot Canon" crowd has a hard time coming to grips with this but I really hope it continues. Competition is a great thing IMHO.


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Dec 17, 2013 09:28 |  #43

racketman wrote in post #16531051 (external link)
For UK price do not convert $ to £ just change $ to £.

I've noticed this for a lot of stuff I've researched for friends and colleagues in the UK. And then you have to pay VAT on top, right?


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Dec 17, 2013 09:31 |  #44

When I had the Tamron 70-300 VC I thought it was amazing. I really couldn't fault the IQ at all. If it has the same or better it will be a pure steal. AF wasn't speedy, but it was generally ok. I might sell some of my sheep for one.




  
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Dec 17, 2013 09:43 |  #45

I don't understand why everyone's so concerned about the low price. If Tamron can make a very good 70-300 for $450 why not a 150-600 for $1070? Remember, lenses aren't ground by hand anymore. Sure, more material and time is needed, and there will be a higher QA rejection rate, which I think the price appropriately reflects.

I don't expect this to be an L-quality lens, but I'm not afraid that the 150-600 quality won't be on-par with their 70-300. But I guess we'll know in a few months.


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