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Dec 17, 2013 10:01 |  #46

bumpintheroad wrote in post #16534132 (external link)
I don't understand why everyone's so concerned about the low price. If Tamron can make a very good 70-300 for $450 why not a 150-600 for $1070? Remember, lenses aren't ground by hand anymore. Sure, more material and time is needed, and there will be a higher QA rejection rate, which I think the price appropriately reflects.

I don't expect this to be an L-quality lens, but I'm not afraid that the 150-600 quality won't be on-par with their 70-300. But I guess we'll know in a few months.

I am more concerned about AF performance with the larger lens elements.


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Dec 17, 2013 11:05 |  #47

bumpintheroad wrote in post #16534132 (external link)
I don't understand why everyone's so concerned about the low price. If Tamron can make a very good 70-300 for $450 why not a 150-600 for $1070? Remember, lenses aren't ground by hand anymore. Sure, more material and time is needed, and there will be a higher QA rejection rate, which I think the price appropriately reflects.

I don't expect this to be an L-quality lens, but I'm not afraid that the 150-600 quality won't be on-par with their 70-300. But I guess we'll know in a few months.

Everyone is just conditioned by Canon to think that a $10K+ lens is reasonable.


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Dec 17, 2013 11:14 |  #48

I'm very enthusiastic about the price! High hopes for this lens all around.
Will it be fast to focus? Not likely, as Tamron is already in 3rd place in that regard on the whole,. (but this could be changing rapidly with there late to the party but appreciated move to USM style AF!!)
I don't imagine this lens with these specs will be in any position to be a ground breaking step forward in that department. Accurate AF though would be a reasonable expectation, and if they can offer that with decent IQ along the lines of the SIGMA 500mm zooms, then wow, what a bargain this lens will be!


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Dec 17, 2013 11:19 |  #49

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Everyone is just conditioned by Canon to think that a $10K+ lens is reasonable.

They've gone too far and IMHO the prices are no longer within the realm of realistic. when the 500mm f/4L IS used to sell for $5,500 new, and the 300mm f/2.8L for under $3K, that was pricey, but understandable ( reasonable )

But I'm O.T. that's not the reason I replied. There are price points for most people, but a 600mm at $1K is now entirely ground breaking in that regard.

No one should expect to compete side by side with a high end 600mm prime.
If it can compete reasonably with a Canon 100-400mm for example, (which by the way also can not compete with a multi $K prime) than I'm sold.


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Dec 17, 2013 11:24 |  #50

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They've gone too far and IMHO the prices are no longer within the realm of realistic. when the 500mm f/4L IS used to sell for $5,500 new, and the 300mm f/2.8L for under $3K, that was pricey, but understandable ( reasonable )

But I'm O.T. that's not the reason I replied. There are price points for most people, but a 600mm at $1K is now entirely ground breaking in that regard.

No one should expect to compete side by side with a high end 600mm prime.
If it can compete reasonably with a Canon 100-400mm for example, (which by the way also can not compete with a multi $K prime) than I'm sold.

Agree 100% I was saving my pennies for a different upgrade but this one seems to be a no-brainer.


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Dec 17, 2013 11:30 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #51

I'm pretty much sold already. I don't need it built like a tank. If you want it built that way go ahead and pay the price for a Canon lens, not only that, but you can get a case for it too.
If it takes sharp images and AF within reason, it'll sell like hotcakes, They might even sell out at first, because of demand.
The one thing I do worry about is consistancy from lens to lens, have to just wait and see.
Way to go Tamron, sounds like an offer we can't refuse !


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Dec 17, 2013 23:47 |  #52

I just checked and the lowest local price of the Tamron 200-500mm is $1,500! Although this includes our 18% VAT, it is still far more even without it. I imagine the 150-600mm would be more...


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Dec 17, 2013 23:52 |  #53

clarnibass wrote in post #16536005 (external link)
I just checked and the lowest local price of the Tamron 200-500mm is $1,500! Although this includes our 18% VAT, it is still far more even without it. I imagine the 150-600mm would be more...

You should visit Hongkong and buy cheap lens and then bring back to UK - 18%VAT.


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Dec 18, 2013 01:36 |  #54

bumpintheroad wrote in post #16534132 (external link)
I don't understand why everyone's so concerned about the low price. If Tamron can make a very good 70-300 for $450 why not a 150-600 for $1070? Remember, lenses aren't ground by hand anymore. Sure, more material and time is needed, and there will be a higher QA rejection rate, which I think the price appropriately reflects.

I don't expect this to be an L-quality lens, but I'm not afraid that the 150-600 quality won't be on-par with their 70-300. But I guess we'll know in a few months.

the 70-300 is a made in china product and fairly low in quality compared to their other lenses. Also pretty weak on the longer end, but super good on the shorter side. Would rather have it the other way around!

I cant read MTF's, but if the 600 is better than the 300, then might be worth it, otherwise, I wouldn't bother.


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Dec 18, 2013 02:20 |  #55

bumpintheroad wrote in post #16534105 (external link)
I've noticed this for a lot of stuff I've researched for friends and colleagues in the UK. And then you have to pay VAT on top, right?

Wrong! the UK prices always include the VAT in the advertised price.


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Dec 18, 2013 02:34 |  #56

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Wrong! the UK prices always include the VAT in the advertised price.

Well, at least that's something. But still don't understand why everything is more expensive than the exchange rate would tend to indicate. US$1070 = £658 + 20% = £789. I've seen the same thing on camping gear, computer equipment and auto parts. Where's that other 27% going?

Not that I'm complaining. But it seems you could order from B&H in the states and have it shipped to save a considerable amount of money.


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Dec 18, 2013 03:02 |  #57

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the 70-300 is a made in china product and fairly low in quality compared to their other lenses. Also pretty weak on the longer end, but super good on the shorter side. Would rather have it the other way around!

I cant read MTF's, but if the 600 is better than the 300, then might be worth it, otherwise, I wouldn't bother.

If you are talking about the 70-300mm VC, maybe you tried a bad copy? Mine is harp at 300mm. A 300mm prime lens is sharper. The x3 times more expensive 70-300mm L is a little sharper. Some of parts of the range are sharper than others. But it is still sharp at 300mm. Absolutely not "weak".


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Dec 18, 2013 04:01 |  #58

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For UK price do not convert $ to £ just change $ to £.

Urban shullbit. Complete ballcocks spread by people who hate the country they live in.

Take any lens more than 6 months old and do the comparison -

70-200 f4 IS
B&H Price = $1349 = £900. + 8% tax = £972
WeX Price = £820. + 20% tax = £984

25-105
B&H = $1149 = £766 + 8% tax = £827
WeX = £678.33 +20% tax = £814


UK prices (including tax) are very close to US prices (including tax).


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Dec 18, 2013 06:19 |  #59

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Not that I'm complaining. But it seems you could order from B&H in the states and have it shipped to save a considerable amount of money.

Sorry but this is just not true. Often UK suppliers will charge over the top for pre-orders or early buyers but after a short while most prices settle down and are certainly nowhere near £ parity with the $. At the end of the day the UK market is miniscule compared to the States so market forces dictate that the US prices should always be a bit cheaper but very often there is very little in it.
As for all the UK haters who delight in running down the country (not getting at you here but all the 'rip off UK' merchants) they could always try to get one cheaper anywhere in EU if they wanted but they will find that the UK is very competitive compared with the rest of Europe.

A few random examples from the B&H website and baring in mind that the These B&H prices do not inc shipping and all the taxes: I am sure you could find all these cheaper somewhere else in the states but these guys who says £=$ are talking a load of 'shullbit' in Franks words lol.

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B&H £750 ($1200)
UK inc tax and P&P £811 (another UK supplier (HDEW) do it for £739)


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UK inc tax and P&P £2300 (another UK supplier (HDEW) do it for £1889)

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B&H £937 ($1500)
UK inc tax and P&P £949 (another UK supplier (HDEW) do it for £709)

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B&H £562 ($899)
UK inc tax and P&P £585

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B&H £668 ($1069)
UK inc tax and P&P £699


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Dec 18, 2013 06:55 |  #60

bumpintheroad wrote in post #16536163 (external link)
Not that I'm complaining. But it seems you could order from B&H in the states and have it shipped to save a considerable amount of money.

Isn't it strange that people don't do this. I wonder why. Could it possibly be because you wouldn't save any money at all?

Example:

B&H price for a 70-300L = $1600. Shipping to the UK is around $40 (probably more) = $1640, or about £1090. Add in duty (6.7%) and VAT (20%) and you get to a final cost of £1400.

Cost of a 70-300L in WeX is £1232


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