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Would the SL1 fill my needs?

 
jnadz
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Dec 19, 2013 22:37 |  #1

I currently have a pretty good size kit. I don't travel with everything but usually bring the 5D3 and 3 lenses with me (of course which lenses I bring depends on what I'm shooting that day). I've always contemplated adding a crop sensor camera to my bag for the few times I could use the extra reach or for the times where I'd like to have 2 lenses at the ready. I just saw Amazon has the SL1 for $369 right now. I guess my main question is how awkward does the SL1 feel with largish lenses (like say my 70-300L.... Not big but not kit lens small either). I already have the eos M with the 22mm for those times I want a pocketable setup so the tiny size isn't the selling factor here although it's a bit of a plus when it comes to stashing the extra body in the travel bag. Anyone with a 5d or 7d sized body use the SL1. Is it comfortable to shoot with?


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Dec 19, 2013 23:14 |  #2

I purchased the 100D (SL1) with 18-55 STM Lens a few weeks back. My main setup is a gripped 70D with 18-135 STM, Canon 100-400 and 55-250 E-FS.

My partner and I wanted a smaller foot print for when we are out at dinner parties and social events with out giving up the advantages offered by a DSLR.

I find the size very comfortable with the shutter release quite well placed.
However, when fitting a lens larger than the 18-55mm the comfort level drops quite quickly with the camera becoming quite un-balanced. I find the lack of a sizeable hand grip to be the issue. With the 1-4 fitted it becomes even more awkward.

For what we required it is superb. Easy to handle with the 18-55, responsive and easily carried everywhere.




  
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Dec 19, 2013 23:33 |  #3
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For what it's worth, I didn't care for the SL1. I never used it extensively, though. I just played with it at BB. I found it quite small. I can't imagine it with 70-200 2.8 on it, or even a 15-85. If I were going to a more portable camera, I'd get an SX50IS. It is a bit smaller, and no lenses to change. I guess it comes down to the compromises you deem worthy.


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Dec 20, 2013 05:09 |  #4

Its fine if you hold the lenses instead of the body. Just act like there is an electronic interface on the back of the lens instread of a camera. I also changed focusing to be on the back using the top of the buttons. Put a 40mm pancake on the camera for a nice experience!


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Dec 20, 2013 06:12 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #5

If you are concerned about the balance, then don't count on using the heavy L lenses.

I use it with the 18-135 STM (that one balances perfectly on the SL-1), the 50 f/1.4, the 85 f/1.8 and when necessary the 70-300 f/4-5.6 IS but even that one does not balance well.

I did try to get to use my 24-105 or my 135 f/2. Too big, too heavy and defeated the purpose of the SL-1.

It is a great camera, though and with the 18-135 STM, it may be all you need for the purposes you mention while still available to serve as a backup to one of the larger models - in a pinch.




  
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Dec 20, 2013 09:52 |  #6

Yeah, this is my problem. If I were to shoot with 2 cameras at once, I'd probably want my 70-300L or at least the 135L on the crop and the 24-70 or Sigma 35 on the 5D.


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Dec 20, 2013 09:58 |  #7

I thought about getting one to replace my 60D but the 60D is a great camera and its really a great size for a DSLR so I passed. I often use my 70-300L on my 60D and it feels just right plus the 60D has nicer controls ( 2 dials ) pretty good FPS and autofocus so it works well for my intended use.

IMO the only way a really small body makes any sense is to use a really small lens. If they would put out a 20mm pancake it would make the SL1 a good replacement for a PS. a 20/40 pancake setup on an SL1 would be outstanding.


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Dec 20, 2013 12:24 as a reply to  @ Tommydigi's post |  #8

I played with the SL-1 at my local camera store. It is nice if you have a small lens on it, but, it did not feel right w/ my 135mm or 200mm. I guess it all depends on what you are looking for. Just my .02 cents.


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Dec 20, 2013 12:42 |  #9

Thx to all for the help. I think I will wait and get a 60d, 70d, or 7d.

If there was a 20mm pancake as good as the 22mm I have for the M, I would probably drop the M and get the SL1. Instead, I think I'll keep the M (the 22mm and the 40mm or even 85mm with adapter in my cargo shorts pockets a nice walking around setup) and get a little larger crop body down the road.


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Dec 20, 2013 16:55 as a reply to  @ jnadz's post |  #10

All good points. But, having owned a 60D and now the SL-1, I would never trade my Sl-1for a 60D. Better image quality, much better video quality.




  
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Dec 20, 2013 17:04 |  #11

I just purchased the SL1 but for an entirely different reason. I have twp 5D gripped bodies for planned events and will use the larger lenses on those. The SL1 I purchased along with a 40 mm lens for my walk-about camera. Too many times I leave the camera behind because I don't want to lug it around. I have been shopping for a mirror-less but picked up on the SL1 instead.

I haven't seen it for 369.00. Everywhere I looked it was 449.00 body only. I picked up the kit from Target which includes 18-55, 75-300, card and bag for 650.00 less a 150.00 gift card for free. I thought that was a good enough deal although I'm not sure I will get use of those lenses. I only plan for the 40mm pancake because I really want this camera to be small yet very capable.




  
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Dec 20, 2013 17:46 |  #12

I have a 5D3 and many lenses. The 5D3 is a great camera but heavy! I have toyed with M43 and an EOS-M as lightweight cameras. However neither cut it for me and the M43s have been sold (keeping the EOS-M for now). I have now had an SL1 (100d here in UK) for a month and love it, take it everywhere. The 18-55 STM kit lens is excellent, I find it to be on a par with the 24-105L. I also use the 85/1.8 EF lens with the SL1, this is light and compact, and equivalent to 135mm - a classic focal length on FF. The kit lens and 85/1.8 make a nice travel and hiking combination.

I also have a 40mm pancake, but find this a rather odd FL on an APS-C camera. What is needed is a 22mm pancake prime, like for the EOS-M, i.e. a 35mm equivalent.

There is no discernible difference in IQ between an SL1 and a 7D - I have access to a 7d for comparison.

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Dec 20, 2013 17:56 |  #13

Eastport wrote in post #16543202 (external link)
All good points. But, having owned a 60D and now the SL-1, I would never trade my Sl-1for a 60D. Better image quality, much better video quality.

Maybe straight out of the camera JPG, but definitely not better at the raw level for stills anyways.


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Dec 20, 2013 18:02 |  #14

TeamSpeed wrote in post #16543326 (external link)
Maybe straight out of the camera JPG, but definitely not better at the raw level for stills anyways.

I was reading up on the specs and my understanding was they have the same sensor as other cropped cameras but slightly improved due to being newer version. Why would RAW be different?




  
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Dec 20, 2013 18:08 |  #15

RandyMN wrote in post #16543341 (external link)
I was reading up on the specs and my understanding was they have the same sensor as other cropped cameras but slightly improved due to being newer version. Why would RAW be different?

Most of the improvements in the high ISO area in the newer generation sensors are in the JPEG engine NR. There is an improvement say between the 60D and 70D in the RAW but is not as marked.


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