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Anyone got the new Sigma 24-105?

 
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Dec 13, 2013 03:43 |  #16

Jerobean wrote in post #16521246 (external link)
age of lens doesn't really matter here.

there are 40 year old lenses that rival anything made today.

You're true for prime lenses, but not for zooms...


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Dec 20, 2013 09:50 |  #17

srn_photo wrote in post #16523315 (external link)
I have used it more in the past few days, and my decision stands. I love the lens. I am still within the return period, and it is not going anywhere.

I think the weight of the lens is significant, but I actually like it quite a bit. I shoot full size slrs and expect them not to be light. I am intrigued by so man of the mirrorless systems coming out, but my 5d keeps pulling me back in. And with this lens I plan on keeping it much longer.

Got any example shots you could share? Any cropped to show sharpness, etc?


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Dec 20, 2013 10:00 |  #18

trewyn15 wrote in post #16520876 (external link)
Wouldn't surprise me. Only thing the L probably has is the weatherproofing.

And AF. I'd consider the Sigma if the wide end was as sharp as the new Canon 24-70s as I wouldn't have to take my 17-40 around as much; but I think walkaround zoom has passed me by for now.


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Dec 20, 2013 10:10 |  #19

Since the Canon version can be found for about $600 new if you shop carefully I don't think I will pay more for Sigma.
The entire market for 24-105L is over inflated now anyway. Expect prices to drop after Canon ships a few more kits.


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Dec 20, 2013 17:19 |  #20

titi_67207 wrote in post #16523726 (external link)
You're true for prime lenses, but not for zooms...

what about sharpness of carl zeiss contax 35-70, i think it tested as sharpest ever zoom, but was 1986


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Dec 21, 2013 12:03 |  #21

82mm filter size kills it for me


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Dec 21, 2013 13:57 |  #22

Blaster6 wrote in post #16542292 (external link)
Since the Canon version can be found for about $600 new if you shop carefully I don't think I will pay more for Sigma.
The entire market for 24-105L is over inflated now anyway. Expect prices to drop after Canon ships a few more kits.

By that you mean, 675 or more. I've been waiting for he price of 5D mark 2's to fall. And they haven't. Which bugs me because I want a portable solution - sorry guys your cameras are not worth 1200(let alone 1450). Try 1000. Some times I hate craigslist, it's existence has driven up the price of camera gear because most camera gear is an emotional purchase.

I was able to move formats for not much more than a 5D2, so I'm not too bummed. But a 6 year old camera going for 1600? Sorry. Not even my H25 back retained that value. If it did, it would have cost me something around $15,000.

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what about sharpness of carl zeiss contax 35-70, i think it tested as sharpest ever zoom, but was 1986

The Contax 45-90 f4.5 should be much sharper. But I've never seen either in person. I have seen the 80mm f2 with an N adapter and it was sexy.

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82mm filter size kills it for me

That shouldn't at all. If the 70-200IS2 had an 82mm filter thread the lens would still be the best lens that canon offers in that focal range.


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Dec 21, 2013 14:20 |  #23

How does the Sigma do compared to the Canon L version? prices a re very comparable.




  
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Dec 21, 2013 15:33 |  #24

24-105....at least from my own experience and also photographers I know is the landscape and travel lens, most of the time. Mine was in Israel (sand), Alps (fog, rain), Iceland (a lot of water), etc.....
I just cannot see Sigma surviving in these conditions as it is not weather sealed. Good lens, I am sure...but no weather sealing? Strange for this lens....35 F/1.4 I get it, but 24-105?


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Dec 21, 2013 18:31 |  #25

pyrojim wrote in post #16545145 (external link)
By that you mean, 675 or more. I've been waiting for he price of 5D mark 2's to fall. And they haven't. Which bugs me because I want a portable solution - sorry guys your cameras are not worth 1200(let alone 1450). Try 1000. Some times I hate craigslist, it's existence has driven up the price of camera gear because most camera gear is an emotional purchase.

I was able to move formats for not much more than a 5D2, so I'm not too bummed. But a 6 year old camera going for 1600? Sorry. Not even my H25 back retained that value. If it did, it would have cost me something around $15,000.

The Contax 45-90 f4.5 should be much sharper. But I've never seen either in person. I have seen the 80mm f2 with an N adapter and it was sexy.

That shouldn't at all. If the 70-200IS2 had an 82mm filter thread the lens would still be the best lens that canon offers in that focal range.

If the 70-200 is II had an 82mm filter thread then I wouldn't have a problem, this is because all my filters are 77mm, the same size as my 70-200 :)

I use step down filters for smaller lenses.

I'm not spending another $400 on filters, I'd go with the canon 24-105 instead. 77mm


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Dec 21, 2013 19:59 |  #26

It's heavier than Canon's 24-70mm II 2.8.
Goodness who wants to carry around this much glass just for an f4 lens?
I thought Canon's 24-105mm f4 was already excessively bulky relative to it's capabilities.
If f4, I'm going for the 24-70mm f4 IS.


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Dec 21, 2013 20:13 |  #27

Mornnb wrote in post #16545809 (external link)
Goodness who wants to carry around this much glass just for an f4 lens?
I thought Canon's 24-105mm f4 was already excessively bulky relative to it's capabilities.

Not sure I follow your logic here. I previously shot crop, and had the 15-85 as a general purpose walkaround lens. APS-C only. Loved it for its fast accurate focus, very hand focal length range, great colour rendition and sharpness.
The 24-105 does all that, is weather sealed, constant f/4, full frame capable, and weighs a whole 90 grams more. All win as far as I'm concerned. If you want lighter, faster and sharper, go primes.




  
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Dec 21, 2013 21:10 |  #28

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Not sure I follow your logic here. I previously shot crop, and had the 15-85 as a general purpose walkaround lens. APS-C only. Loved it for its fast accurate focus, very hand focal length range, great colour rendition and sharpness.
The 24-105 does all that, is weather sealed, constant f/4, full frame capable, and weighs a whole 90 grams more. All win as far as I'm concerned. If you want lighter, faster and sharper, go primes.

Coming from a 7D + 15-85mm I really did not like the 24-105mm. It's distortion and flare characteristics are quite terrible, and it is large and bulky. It only offers sharpness as a benefit, and that's more about being usable on a larger sensor size. I felt it was in many ways a downgrade! hence why I picked up a 24-70mm II 2.8, which is a superb lens.
Now Sigma comes along and makes an even bulkier f4 lens. It doesn't make any sense to me. If I am getting a slower lens, it should surely be an easier to carry smaller lens or what's the point in choosing it over a 2.8 zoom? It's bigger than Sigma's own 24-70mm 2.8!!


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Dec 23, 2013 07:35 |  #29

pyrojim wrote in post #16545145 (external link)
By that you mean, 675 or more. I've been waiting for he price of 5D mark 2's to fall. And they haven't. Which bugs me because I want a portable solution - sorry guys your cameras are not worth 1200(let alone 1450). Try 1000. Some times I hate craigslist, it's existence has driven up the price of camera gear because most camera gear is an emotional purchase.

When the lens is in a kit it raises the price of the kit $600. I have seen white box versions for that price. That's why I put the value of the lens at about $600. $675 is within the reasonable realm but much more than that is not. If that lens was a stock I would advise you to sell. For that matter if it was a lens I would advise you to sell if you can go without it for 6 months and pick one up later at a deep discount.

The 5D2 needs a major price reduction now that the 6D is available.

I feel used equipment in general is incredibly overpriced. I would also blame ebay. I remember when you could occassionally get a good deal there but now I see prices for used stuff selling higher than new. If you put it on ebay for $600 it will sell for $800 or more. I sold a CPS pin there for $16 and I think the person I sold it to plans on selling it for a profit. I checked his feedback and it looks like he has made a business of buying and selling CPS items. Insanity.


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