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Photog v. Bull Elk

 
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Nov 15, 2013 08:40 |  #1

Bull Elk takes unhealthy interest in a man photographing him....

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Nov 16, 2013 11:31 |  #2

I saw this yesterday and I am with the first commenter on that link. How many people sat there and watch this guy get smacked around by a possibly rutting elk? Seems kinda messed up. Cool video nonetheless.


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Nov 17, 2013 21:33 |  #3

This was very young, immature elk. Not in rut, as he was, shall we say, not fully developed. This particular elk had been fed by campers in the park previously and despite efforts to get him to fear people, the NPS staff could not. He was euthanized a couple days later.

Absolutely, this was stupid on the part of photog as he could easily have been seriously harmed or killed. Whether the elk approached him or not, he should have known better. And to sit there and watch this as a spectator is as irresponsible as he.

Photogs fault? No. He certainly didn't help matters nor did those around him. Fault lies with campers who left food out and fed the elk. He became habituated to being fed and saw humans as a source of food (not in the sense he'd eat them). A lot of blame here, but, in this instance, not the photog's fault. Additionally, anyone who has seen the elk in Cataloochee (where this was filmed) knows they are not that scared of humans due to the amount of attention they get. I'm somewhat shocked this hasn't happened before.


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Nov 17, 2013 21:42 |  #4

OK, but I'd love to see some of the photos he snapped!


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Nov 18, 2013 17:27 |  #5

The latest on the story, they euthanized the elk....
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Nov 19, 2013 09:27 |  #6

I saw this on the news, that's one brave photographer...wish they'd publish the photos he took, would just love to see what they turned out like!




  
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Nov 25, 2013 23:25 |  #7

So the wild animal was acting, well, wild, and they killed him for it.




  
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Dec 20, 2013 20:15 |  #8

DantheCanonMan wrote in post #16480430 (external link)
So the wild animal was acting, well, wild, and they killed him for it.

Really sad. We encroach on their habitat and they die for it.


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Dec 20, 2013 20:41 as a reply to  @ cerett's post |  #9

I only browsed thru the article. Makes me wonder if at what point before the videos was taken, were the other photogs offer help. Maybe it was offered but denied by the photog.

Or maybe the elk took offence to the bad hat.:D

But on the serious side, I feel sorry that they had to kill the animal.


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Dec 20, 2013 21:22 as a reply to  @ Canajun's post |  #10

Okay .... Here's the rest of the story. How do I know? Because I was there the day that this happened. I do not know the person that had the encounter with the young elk, except for a brief conversation with him after things were over. Did folks offer to help, give advice, etc. Yes they did ... and I did as well.

The encounter went on for over 20 minutes, the photographer had plenty of opportunities to get up and walk away. This young elk had become habituated to the point of begging for "people food" often. I have images of the gentleman changing lenses, chimping his images, changing camera settings. He figured out that if he lowered his head the young elk would gently head but him .... not ram him, just come forward and bump heads

The photographer did not start the encounter as the elk came up from behind him. The guy was legal in his location to view and photograph the elk in the Cataloochee Valley, which is simply "Not in the fields"

At the time this encounter happened the elk rut was over, although a few of the huge bulls were tending some gals still .... and there were the occasional bugles.

When the photographer finally did get to his feet the young elk scurried away. I was and still am sick that this elk was killed after the encounter .... the untold part of the story is that 2 other females were put down in subsequent days for similar reasons of becoming to habituated.

Park officials ruled that the photographer did nothing wrong and was not cited or fined. And I would agree because there are still no laws broken for being stupid!

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Dec 20, 2013 21:49 |  #11

bhowdy wrote in post #16543793 (external link)
Okay .... Here's the rest of the story. How do I know? Because I was there the day that this happened. I do not know the person that had the encounter with the young elk, except for a brief conversation with him after things were over. Did folks offer to help, give advice, etc. Yes they did ... and I did as well.

Park officials ruled that the photographer did nothing wrong and was not cited or fined. And I would agree because there are still no laws broken for being stupid!

The photographer did nothing more wrong than the thousands of people before him. I'm also sorry that this as well as two other females were killed, but the video shows a problem. It's not simply whether this situation in particular is dangerous, it's the fact that this elk has become a danger to people because of the people have created the problem! Those antlers are sharp, so before a person does get killed the park officials need to take steps in preventing a possible tragedy waiting to occur...

Yes, it's not park officials that killed these elk, it's the vacationers that have acted irresponsibly in teaching these wild elk that "we" are a source of food.




  
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Dec 20, 2013 23:58 |  #12

That Bull should not have been put down. He's just acting as any human even would probably act in their natural habitat.

The guy should have stood up sooner, looks like he had a telephoto to his left as well, not sure why it seems as if he was so close.


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Dec 21, 2013 04:43 |  #13

RandyMN wrote in post #16543843 (external link)
The photographer did nothing more wrong than the thousands of people before him. I'm also sorry that this as well as two other females were killed, but the video shows a problem. It's not simply whether this situation in particular is dangerous, it's the fact that this elk has become a danger to people because of the people have created the problem! Those antlers are sharp, so before a person does get killed the park officials need to take steps in preventing a possible tragedy waiting to occur...

Yes, it's not park officials that killed these elk, it's the vacationers that have acted irresponsibly in teaching these wild elk that "we" are a source of food.

I agree with your statement completely Randy .......


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Dec 21, 2013 11:13 |  #14

bhowdy wrote in post #16543793 (external link)
Okay .... Here's the rest of the story. How do I know? Because I was there the day that this happened. I do not know the person that had the encounter with the young elk, except for a brief conversation with him after things were over. Did folks offer to help, give advice, etc. Yes they did ... and I did as well.

The encounter went on for over 20 minutes, the photographer had plenty of opportunities to get up and walk away. This young elk had become habituated to the point of begging for "people food" often. I have images of the gentleman changing lenses, chimping his images, changing camera settings. He figured out that if he lowered his head the young elk would gently head but him .... not ram him, just come forward and bump heads

The photographer did not start the encounter as the elk came up from behind him. The guy was legal in his location to view and photograph the elk in the Cataloochee Valley, which is simply "Not in the fields"

At the time this encounter happened the elk rut was over, although a few of the huge bulls were tending some gals still .... and there were the occasional bugles.

When the photographer finally did get to his feet the young elk scurried away. I was and still am sick that this elk was killed after the encounter .... the untold part of the story is that 2 other females were put down in subsequent days for similar reasons of becoming to habituated.

Park officials ruled that the photographer did nothing wrong and was not cited or fined. And I would agree because there are still no laws broken for being stupid!

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Dec 21, 2013 11:24 |  #15

He must have got some good shots. Where are they?


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