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Dec 20, 2013 10:54 |  #1

Ok so I have a canon 50mm 1.4 and was wondering if it is worth having the 40mm 2.8?
I ask because i am seeing them being used more and more locally. Plus with it being only 120 bucks right now its a good deal.


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Dec 20, 2013 11:04 |  #2

I have a 50L and still find the 40-shorty a welcome addition.

My humble opinion, but it sounds like you have GAS (gear acquisition syndrome). Just because it's cheap doesn't mean you need it. Then again, if you do "need" it, then now is the time to buy.


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Dec 20, 2013 11:05 |  #3

Since you've got the 50/1.4, the 40 really won't do much for you IMHO. You would probably be better off getting something wider like one of the 24's or 28's, although those aren't as reasonably priced


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Dec 20, 2013 11:28 |  #4

v35skyline wrote in post #16542418 (external link)
sounds like you have GAS (gear acquisition syndrome).

I love that!
I have heard good things about it (40mm) but I didn't see the need with having the 50mm. My cousin has it and says its the best thing since sliced bread and even sold his 50mm 1.8.

I want a wider prime but again its 40mm vs 50mm will the 10mm make that big of a difference?. I want to shoot some old building around town here and I have been looking at the 20mm 2.8 and the 24mm 2.8.


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Dec 20, 2013 12:50 |  #5

I got rid of my 50/1.4 for the 40/2.8 - not because it was optically better, but because I use it like the body cap. It lives on my camera, and is close enough for the kind of photography I do that it makes no real difference for me.


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Dec 20, 2013 14:17 |  #6

I used to have the 50 f/1.4, but sold it after buying the 40mm pancake. I was keeping the 50mm as a small, light travel prime even after buying a 50L, but the pancake works better for that purpose. It is so small that it takes up virtually zero space in my camera bag, or I can carry it in my pocket.


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Dec 20, 2013 15:07 |  #7

Heya,

If you want wider angle, the 40mm f2.8 can be good. 10mm makes a difference. You have to just look and see if the perspective is right for your style. Also, the 50mm f1.4 is not very sharp wide open. So if you're stopping down to around f2~2.8 area, you really aren't getting an advantage from the f1.4. So if you wanted to migrate, you could sell the 50mm f1.4, get the 40mm f2.8, and have a profit for other things. At the cost of the pancake, it's worth trying.

Alternatively, just skip all this and go straight to the 35mm f2 IS.

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Dec 20, 2013 18:04 |  #8

I really like the concept of having a lens focal length close to the diagonal of the format shot ("dead on" normal lens). So, if you have a FF Canon, the 40mm is just a bit wider than the 'true" normal focal length for the sensor. I have one and love it! On a 1.6 crop, it acts like a long "normal" lens, but if you want to go the diagonal of the sensor route on a 1.6 crop, then you need a 28mm lens of some type (Canon does not make a 26. 8 mm lens which would be dead normal for 1.6 crop)

the 40mm has top notch IQ, and at the price, you cannot go wrong.


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Dec 21, 2013 15:14 |  #9

If you want to kill some time, I made a video about JUST this subject: http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=b4zIOW81ofA (external link)




  
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Dec 21, 2013 22:00 |  #10

Great video NotBlake. Thanks! I just returned my 50 1.4 in exchange for the 40. The 50 was back focusing about 2" and not being able to Micro Adjust I figured having the wider lens, using it mainly for street photography and urban situations, was a better idea. I also went with an 85 1.8 to match with the 40 for portrait situation.


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Dec 21, 2013 22:05 |  #11

I've got both. If I had to pick one, I'd pick the 50, no question. However, the 40 is a great "wife mode" lens. I picked one up when the gear list special put them at 100$.




  
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Dec 21, 2013 22:08 |  #12

I have a 35L and still find a place for the 40mm - fun lens, is very sharp and focuses acurately and as we all know, is slightly bigger than a body cap... plus the price... blah blah, its great to have in the bag.


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Dec 22, 2013 02:54 |  #13

sonek00 wrote in post #16542469 (external link)
I want a wider prime but again its 40mm vs 50mm will the 10mm make that big of a difference?. I want to shoot some old building around town here and I have been looking at the 20mm 2.8 and the 24mm 2.8.

There seems to be a widely held misconception that you should subtract focal lengths when comparing field of view. You don't - you divide. So 10mm near the normal range is significant, while it isn't at 400mm.

In terms of the focal length you need, carry your 24-105 to the building in question and try it out. Generally I use 20-35mm for buildings.




  
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Dec 22, 2013 10:55 |  #14

vengence wrote in post #16546043 (external link)
I've got both. If I had to pick one, I'd pick the 50, no question. However, the 40 is a great "wife mode" lens. I picked one up when the gear list special put them at 100$.

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Dec 22, 2013 12:53 |  #15

I have it along with my 50L and still use it often.

Its the perfect little brother when my arms get tired from the 50 brick L or want to go to a little dangerous places because ill better damage my 6D and my 40 instead of the 6D with a 50L attached..

Ill say, look out for a good deal and get it. Its nice to have a small lens which is optically that great!

Look at canonrumors.com for cheap deals


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