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Progression in confidence, 4 portraits.

 
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Dec 20, 2013 23:48 |  #1

So I've recently been getting asked to take "executive" type portraits at work for command photos or retirements. I was really happy with my first go at it and thought I nailed it until looking back yesterday and comparing the 4 that I've done so far. I thought I'd share them on here and get your opinions on them as well as I believe they've gotten progressively better. The camera settings changed from shoot to shoot (obviously) but the biggest change was with the lighting. The first 2 were with a shoot-thru umbrella and the last 2 were using my 26" Octa Rapid Box. All 4 of these were shot in the exact same spot with only 1 light and a reflector and using lessons learned from the previous shoot. Let me know what you guys think. CC much appreciated.

1. Shot with my Tamron 28-75mm & shoot-thru

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2. used my 50 1.8 (mk I) for this one & shoot-thru
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3. used my 50 1.8 with this one too & rapid box (for the first time ever)
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4. used my 85 1.8 here & rapid box. Shot this one yesterday.
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Dec 21, 2013 00:05 |  #2

I'm not the best critic of portraits, but I like the lighting you're getting with the rapid box much better. The dark shadows under the chin and the bill of the hat are much light in the second two images. At the same time, the background wall is de-emphasized with this lighting. Only thought to improve would be to get a little fill lighting (maybe from a reflector) on the right side of the face (camera left), as there might be too much difference from side-to-side for some people's taste. But I think you're pretty close to where you need to be on these.


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Dec 21, 2013 01:39 |  #3

IMO, they are all salvageable, the last two with better lighting, but the crops are too tight - I hope these aren't SOOC :( Again IMO




  
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Dec 21, 2013 01:49 |  #4

I like the third one the best, although lighting is a bit flat.
In the last one, the area around the nose and the mouth is a little dark, as well as the left side of the photo. Maybe move the reflector a bit to, umm..., reflect more light?
Also, the left side of #4 fades to complete black and he loses a shoulder.
#3 is a little better in this regard.
Maybe move the light closer to the subject as well as the reflector to soften the shadows?


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Dec 21, 2013 07:07 |  #5

I think #1is the best of the bunch lighting wise for this type of miliarty portraiture.
An addtional light for crosslighting camera left would help to seperate with the background, add texture and dimension to their coats. It would make the last image the best lighting wise.
#2 has the best expression, but still not ideal. My opinion is that military portraits should be somewhat austere.
I envy you with your access to doing this sort of work. It looks like you're well on your way to putting it together.


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Dec 21, 2013 08:43 |  #6

I like the lighting and the contact with the subject.
One critical aspect from me would be the fingers...


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Dec 21, 2013 19:30 as a reply to  @ reheat module's post |  #7

Two suggestions:

You are definitely well on your way. A reflector camera left would have capped it.

Pull back just a little and get all of the hand and fingers in the image.

Honestly I would imagine that all four are very happy with the images. Now follow the few suggestions in this thread to push it to the next level!

BTW I see no issue with the crop aside from the hands.


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Dec 21, 2013 19:30 |  #8

tmoore323 wrote in post #16544137 (external link)
IMO, they are all salvageable, the last two with better lighting, but the crops are too tight - I hope these aren't SOOC :( Again IMO

You really think the crops are too tight? I was trying not to show the edges of the table. Could you elaborate on your hope that these aren't SOOC? That one's got me puzzled. :confused:


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Dec 21, 2013 20:43 as a reply to  @ rivas8409's post |  #9

I like the crop on the last one. Actually I love the crop on the last one. Why do I need to see his elbows - it not like my mind doesn't complete his arms?

The fingers slightly cropped on the 3rd wouldn't be such an issue if it weren't for the ring drawing my attention down there.


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Dec 21, 2013 21:16 |  #10

rivas8409 wrote in post #16545755 (external link)
Could you elaborate on your hope that these aren't SOOC? That one's got me puzzled. :confused:

I think his point is that if they are SOOC, then you didn't crop them and thus have no ability to retrieve parts of the frame that were cropped.


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Dec 21, 2013 21:23 |  #11

rivas8409 wrote in post #16545755 (external link)
You really think the crops are too tight? I was trying not to show the edges of the table. Could you elaborate on your hope that these aren't SOOC? That one's got me puzzled. :confused:

Your cutting off fingers and other parts that would add to the shots, I hope you can pull back a bit :)




  
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Dec 21, 2013 21:25 |  #12

BigSkyKen wrote in post #16545958 (external link)
I think his point is that if they are SOOC, then you didn't crop them and thus have no ability to retrieve parts of the frame that were cropped.

Said better then I said it, thanks!




  
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Dec 21, 2013 22:13 |  #13

tmoore323 wrote in post #16545974 (external link)
Your cutting off fingers and other parts that would add to the shots, I hope you can pull back a bit :)

Oh! Yeah, these are all cropped.


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Dec 21, 2013 22:43 |  #14

rivas8409 wrote in post #16546061 (external link)
Oh! Yeah, these are all cropped.

Can you post the SOOC?




  
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