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Dec 24, 2013 19:07 |  #931

Is anyone even considering VC when they are comparing with 4005.6+TC?
Just try shooting a small bird with 4005.6+TC and a lens with IS handheld and then let me know what is your keeper rate.
For those who are mentioning about lens from ebay<1000, do the ebay lens comes with VC, autofocus?
I had 600L in past and yes i loved the output but i start getting tired carrying so heavy setup and then going out less and less. So for me i don't want to send 12k and doing nothing, i rather spend 1k and take shoots once in a while and don't feel i have white elephant standing in my dry box.
Anyway it all depend on individuals, i love bird photography and this is more like a hobby. I don't crop 100%, so i can still live without peeping pixels at 100% crop (maybe i have to low standard in some people eyes).


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Dec 24, 2013 19:28 |  #932

commonjunks wrote in post #16552161 (external link)
Is anyone even considering VC when they are comparing with 4005.6+TC?
Just try shooting a small bird with 4005.6+TC and a lens with IS handheld and then let me know what is your keeper rate.
For those who are mentioning about lens from ebay<1000, do the ebay lens comes with VC, autofocus?

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No, they are super cheap lenses, often T-mount. But if you just want length and don't need anything else, then they do have their place. I have one, but rarely use it.


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Dec 24, 2013 23:10 |  #933

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #16551175 (external link)
That strikes me as a pretty arrogant remark, putting down people who can simply not afford a Canon 500mm or 600mm lens and are forced to look elsewhere. Why are you in this thread anyway if this lens is so far below you? Buy yourself the Canon 500/4L II and leave us lesser gods alone!

Yep. That's crucial.

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I own both the 500f4 mark I and the 100-400L with 1.4 convertor and it's not beneath me to own a lens such as the mentioned Tamron. In fact I've got one on preorder. I'm hoping it'll at least match to image quality of the 100-400L bare or at least with the 1.4 convertor. The proof will be in the pudding. If I don't like it I can always sell it and take my losses.

To be honest, I'm excited about this lens. It should be an opportunity to be able to hike and shoot wildlife with greater range than the 100-400 offers (natively) and with greater portability than the 500L mkI. Both will now be possible, greater range with portability, fingers crossed.

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Dec 24, 2013 23:30 |  #934

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #16552050 (external link)
Yes it does. For me too the Tamron needs to be better at 600mm than the 400/5.6+1.4xTC or the 400 cropped.

I'm in the same boat. Although the Tamron has a slight speed advantage over the 400 5.6+1.4xTC. I'm not sure 2/3 of a stop will make that much difference, though. It'll get you from ISO3200 down to ISO2000 or ISO1600 down to ISO1000. Could make a difference in sharpness if you were cropping to any large degree. Of course the VC has to be considered a big plus over the 400 5.6.

I can't wait for some trusted review sites to get their hand on this.


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Dec 24, 2013 23:36 as a reply to  @ shutterbug guy's post |  #935

I'm really never a big fan of early adopters. But this lens is creating so much noise that I am tempted to jump on the bandwagon. One question regarding preordering. What if the price increase when the item is finally in stock. Which one price will you pay, the original or the new price?


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Dec 24, 2013 23:55 |  #936

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oops...guess that's what i get for posting right after waking up...

I figured it was a mistake. :)




  
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Dec 25, 2013 01:25 |  #937

Canajun wrote in post #16552474 (external link)
I'm really never a big fan of early adopters. But this lens is creating so much noise that I am tempted to jump on the bandwagon. One question regarding preordering. What if the price increase when the item is finally in stock. Which one price will you pay, the original or the new price?

I've never been an early adopter either but this new lens has me pumped. Quite possibly a very versatile tool, we'll see. If it does become what it hints to be I can easily see this lens being sold out before it hits the shelves.

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Dec 25, 2013 03:33 |  #938

I would use this lens only in Spring and Summer when I ride out to the countryside, so I won't be buying until March or April, depending on the weather, which is nice, as that gives me time to wait for official reviews and users' experiences. :)


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Dec 25, 2013 05:25 |  #939

Could certainly be a nice carry able family holiday tele.


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Dec 25, 2013 06:17 |  #940

Looks tempting for airshows, which are not very common for me these days :( But I'd have to sell the 400 to justify it I think, and that would be difficult.




  
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Dec 25, 2013 07:00 |  #941

commonjunks wrote in post #16552161 (external link)
Is anyone even considering VC when they are comparing with 4005.6+TC?
Just try shooting a small bird with 4005.6+TC and a lens with IS handheld and then let me know what is your keeper rate.

I shoot with this set up the majority of the time with no complaints. Never really experience any issues not having IS. I doubt the Tamron would give me better results.

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Dec 25, 2013 07:34 |  #942

Canajun wrote in post #16552474 (external link)
I'm really never a big fan of early adopters. But this lens is creating so much noise that I am tempted to jump on the bandwagon. One question regarding preordering. What if the price increase when the item is finally in stock. Which one price will you pay, the original or the new price?

I imagine it depends on where you buy, but I would pretty much guarantee you that the major retailers (B&H, Adorama, Hunts, etc) will honor their pre-order price.


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Dec 25, 2013 08:13 |  #943

Shooting the 400 5.6. +TC on a non 1 series body means no AF. The Tamron will AF and that is a plus.

I'm excited about what a 3rd party manufacturer can do. My 100-400 is pretty long in the tooth but still
is very sharp.
This lens is 1lb heavier than the 100-400 but has better stabilization I'm sure and 200mm more reach.

I can't wait to see what POTN people do with this lens as, to me that is more telling than some test from some internet guru.



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Dec 25, 2013 08:39 |  #944

jhayesvw wrote in post #16552849 (external link)
Shooting the 400 5.6. +TC on a non 1 series body means no AF. The Tamron will AF and that is a plus.
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Only on reporting TCs. Also, there is a simple trick you can use to get all lenses to AF. But I agree, if this lens proves out to be as good as the early pictures indicate, I might have to break down and git one.


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Dec 25, 2013 08:43 |  #945

gjl711 wrote in post #16552886 (external link)
Only on reporting TCs. Also, there is a simple trick you can use to get all lenses to AF. But I agree, if this lens proves out to be as good as the early pictures indicate, I might have to break down and git one.

Well, the tricks will allow them to TRY to AF. Not all lens/body combinations will succeed; many will just hunt.


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