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Dec 27, 2013 15:18 |  #1

On top of my Canon Mk2 lens wants (which now I've decided to stick to the Tamrons) now I really want to add an 85 prime back to my kit. I wasn't too happy with the Canon 85 1.8. It took 2.2 to make it reasonably sharp for my taste. My friend has the 85 1.2II and I've used it from time to time however the AF speed leaves me to desire more.

I want to try out the Sigma 85. From the samples I've been looking at and the reviews it seems to be the economical choice.

My only worry is the AF. Is this going to bring back the issues with the 30mm, it took me 4 copies to get a good one.


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Dec 27, 2013 15:20 |  #2

maybe you got a bad copy? I picked up the 85 1.8 and i think its fantastic wide open!


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Dec 27, 2013 15:28 |  #3

I'm getting my canon 85 1.8 today because I've heard such great things about it




  
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Dec 27, 2013 15:49 |  #4

I find the 85 1.8 an insane value for the money. Having owned the 85L II prior for nearly a year, I was shocked how close the IQ is... If you put aside the f/1.2 vs. f/1.8 abilities.

The weight, AF speed and value are all much better on the 85 1.8... The 85L does have that f/1.2, but also with it the slow AF (which is not THAT bad as long as not going from MFD to infinity) and hefty price tag.


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Dec 27, 2013 16:33 |  #5

andykim7 wrote in post #16557844 (external link)
maybe you got a bad copy? I picked up the 85 1.8 and i think its fantastic wide open!

My copy wasn't too bad. I just felt it was redundant w/ the 70-200 and the ISO capabilities of my 6D. I get better results and more versatility from the zoom. Now if it was 1.2/1.4 capable then thats less higher ISO.

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Dec 27, 2013 16:46 |  #6

you got a bad copy of the 85mm 1.8. Have the vendor you bought it from replace it for you. I can read barcodes with mine at 1.8. It's the sharpest lens I've ever owned at f/1.8. The 85 1.2 should be equally sharp or very slightly sharper at comparable apertures.

EDIT: you should not buy the 85 1.2 for sharpness (it's sharp, but you should buy it for 1.2 - that's the advantage). Don't let an out-of-spec 1.8 ruin that lens for you, it's one of the best values on the EF system right now.




  
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Dec 27, 2013 18:54 |  #7

andykim7 wrote in post #16557844 (external link)
maybe you got a bad copy? I picked up the 85 1.8 and i think its fantastic wide open!

This. I found my copy was very sharp wide open. I only returned it because I liked the rendering better on the Samyang 85mm (which isn't as sharp until it's stopped to around f/2).


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Dec 27, 2013 19:24 |  #8

Talley wrote in post #16558009 (external link)
My copy wasn't too bad. I just felt it was redundant w/ the 70-200 and the ISO capabilities of my 6D. I get better results and more versatility from the zoom. Now if it was 1.2/1.4 capable then thats less higher ISO.

I've used both the 85L and 70-200 mk 2, and they're really complimentary tools. 135/70-200 is more redundant though IMO. Indoors/in the optimal working distance, the 85L just creams anything, and a zoom just cant get close to matching.

biggest issue with the 85 1.8 is that wide open, it lacks sharpness contrast compared to the 1.2 (or even the tamron 24-70 zoom). Both are sharp enough wide open (85L is biting sharp), but that extra 2/3 stop of light and contrast is a damn big selling point of the 85L. Not sure it's better than the sigma, but it's an incredible lens, even if slow.

DO NOT use filters on either lens, as the sharpness will degrade a bit.


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Dec 28, 2013 01:33 |  #9

I like my Sigma 85 1.4 with my 5D Mark III. However, the AF on the Canon 85 f1.8 tends to be a tad bit more accurate and faster in focusing. If I'm shooting sports I'll use the Canon, for other types of things like portraits or event work, I'll use the Sigma 85.

There is always the risk of AF problems (back/front focusing), but fortunately the Sigma 85 is dead on with my 5D MK III.


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mesakid wrote in post #16558903 (external link)
There is always the risk of AF problems (back/front focusing), but fortunately the Sigma 85 is dead on with my 5D MK III.

Same here.

I've had 2 copies of 85 1.8 and they are both junk and nothing compared to the 2 Sigma 85 that I've own.

Sold my Sigma before for 70-200II and now that I've bought it back it's staying :)


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Dec 28, 2013 04:37 |  #11

I have been shooting with the 85mm 1.8 and it's very good IMO.


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Dec 28, 2013 10:11 |  #12

NotBlake wrote in post #16558044 (external link)
you got a bad copy of the 85mm 1.8. Have the vendor you bought it from replace it for you. I can read barcodes with mine at 1.8. It's the sharpest lens I've ever owned at f/1.8. The 85 1.2 should be equally sharp or very slightly sharper at comparable apertures.

EDIT: you should not buy the 85 1.2 for sharpness (it's sharp, but you should buy it for 1.2 - that's the advantage). Don't let an out-of-spec 1.8 ruin that lens for you, it's one of the best values on the EF system right now.

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I've used both the 85L and 70-200 mk 2, and they're really complimentary tools. 135/70-200 is more redundant though IMO. Indoors/in the optimal working distance, the 85L just creams anything, and a zoom just cant get close to matching.

biggest issue with the 85 1.8 is that wide open, it lacks sharpness contrast compared to the 1.2 (or even the tamron 24-70 zoom). Both are sharp enough wide open (85L is biting sharp), but that extra 2/3 stop of light and contrast is a damn big selling point of the 85L. Not sure it's better than the sigma, but it's an incredible lens, even if slow.

DO NOT use filters on either lens, as the sharpness will degrade a bit.

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I have been shooting with the 85mm 1.8 and it's very good IMO.

I had the 85 1.8 for a good while. Loved it on crop. It was OK on FF. I think it was actually better than on crop really. I just wasn't a fan of the CA it suffered from. And for me it took 2.2 to really clean up nice on sharpness. at that point it was redundant w/ my 70-200s.

I'm looking for a bit more thinner DOF and more low light of lens. The 85 1.2 is top on my list but not sure if I want to share that expense when I see the Sigma offering is "NOT" that bad for half the price.


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Dec 28, 2013 11:20 |  #13

NotBlake wrote in post #16558044 (external link)
you got a bad copy of the 85mm 1.8. Have the vendor you bought it from replace it for you. I can read barcodes with mine at 1.8. It's the sharpest lens I've ever owned at f/1.8. The 85 1.2 should be equally sharp or very slightly sharper at comparable apertures.

EDIT: you should not buy the 85 1.2 for sharpness (it's sharp, but you should buy it for 1.2 - that's the advantage). Don't let an out-of-spec 1.8 ruin that lens for you, it's one of the best values on the EF system right now.

+1 bw!


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Dec 28, 2013 11:31 |  #14

I agree with the hoard. The 1.8 is very sharp, even at 1.8. I now own the 1.2 but when I use it at 1.8 or higher, I miss the silly fast focusing speed of the 1.8 and place IQ nearly identical.


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Dec 28, 2013 11:32 as a reply to  @ JakAHearts's post |  #15

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+1 bw!

NotBlake wrote in post #16558044 (external link)
you got a bad copy of the 85mm 1.8. Have the vendor you bought it from replace it for you. I can read barcodes with mine at 1.8. It's the sharpest lens I've ever owned at f/1.8. The 85 1.2 should be equally sharp or very slightly sharper at comparable apertures.

EDIT: you should not buy the 85 1.2 for sharpness (it's sharp, but you should buy it for 1.2 - that's the advantage). Don't let an out-of-spec 1.8 ruin that lens for you, it's one of the best values on the EF system right now.

I fail to miss how my copy was bad? And I couldn't replace it since I sold it several months ago back in Sept. Haven't had one since. My only options at this point would be the Canon 1.2 or the Sig 1.4. For one stop I'd just stick w/ my amazing Tamron 70-200.


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