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Dec 28, 2013 14:05 |  #1

I have a 60d and t3i. What is my best option for these cameras without spending tons of cash. What canon and yongnuo has ettl and hss? What flashes can be controlled from the cameras with the pop up? Thanks.


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Dec 28, 2013 14:11 |  #2

I would take using the flash commander out of the equation and go directly to a 430EXII or Yongnuo equivalent and use the YN622Cs.

Or take a look at this:
http://flashhavoc.com …eased-yn-600ex-rt-coming/ (external link)

YN622Cs and Yongnuo unit that can be controlled with in camera menuing is what I would do. I have the YN622Cs and use them with a 580EXII, Yongnuo didn't have good options 5 years ago when I bought the 580EXII.


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Dec 28, 2013 19:36 |  #3

Why would you take the flash commander out of the situation? Are those the cheapest triggers to use with the 430exii as well as the yongnuo equivalent? What is the yongnuo equivalent? I want to be able to use the flash off camera, so not sure what equipment I need.


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Dec 28, 2013 19:48 |  #4

Take a look at the Yongnuo YN565ex (no HSS) or the Yongnuo YN568ex or exII (HSS capable). Both units are ETTL and will work wirelessly (off camera) with your pop up flash very well indoors. However, if you go out doors or require HSS off camera, I believe you will need some radio controllers (yn-622c)


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Dec 28, 2013 19:55 |  #5

Looks like that model is around $180 which means you're getting into 430exii range. At they price point is it worth to just go with the canon name? I admit I know little about flash. Is it worth just getting triggers to take the pop up out of the equation? What do I need to do hss off camera in the most cost effective manner.


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Dec 28, 2013 20:40 |  #6

Frodge wrote in post #16560517 (external link)
Why would you take the flash commander out of the situation? Are those the cheapest triggers to use with the 430exii as well as the yongnuo equivalent? What is the yongnuo equivalent? I want to be able to use the flash off camera, so not sure what equipment I need.

The flash commander functioned less than optimally.
YN622Cs and a 430EXII will be a nice set up.


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Dec 28, 2013 20:47 |  #7

Thanks a lot. Is it worthwhile to get the deluxe kit or just the 430exii? The flash alone is $249 and the deluxe is $289

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Dec 28, 2013 22:13 |  #8

I wouldn't buy the kit.


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Dec 29, 2013 13:14 |  #9

windpig wrote in post #16560789 (external link)
I wouldn't buy the kit.

Can you name some reasons why as I've been leaning towards getting the kit when I get my first flash. Thanks.

It'd be for my T3i btw.




  
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Dec 29, 2013 13:24 |  #10

Because the extra stuff isn't worth the money. I've been there and done that. Going down the path of learning and using strobe/flash is well worth the effort, but the cost starts to add up.

This is what I would suggest:
flash
a set of Eneloops and charger
light stand (spend a little more than the cheapest)
round reflector white/silver
a set of YN622Cs
Something like this Westcott Orb: http://www.adorama.com …LbD9p6V1rsCFY2D​QgoddhcAig (external link)
(umbrellas are cheaper, but I like more control)

Don't have to repurchase pieces because you bought garbage the first go around.

You can make bounce cards, grids and flags, so save your money until you know what you'l use.


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Dec 29, 2013 13:43 |  #11

Thanks for the quick reply and the good info windpig!




  
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Dec 29, 2013 15:15 |  #12

+1 on windpig's post. Just don't use the eneloops in the 622s. Many reports of intermittent flash with eneloops. Copper top alkalines last a really long time in a 622.


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Dec 29, 2013 17:08 |  #13

spade5320 wrote in post #16562009 (external link)
Can you name some reasons why as I've been leaning towards getting the kit when I get my first flash. Thanks.

It'd be for my T3i btw.

I'm really new at this ... and using 430EX II (2) and Yongnuo wireless.

When I glance at that kit, as if buying a 3rd flash, which I plan to anyway, the cord alone strikes me as a discard. Wireless is so nice, even hand-held, see little reason to connect a cord.


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Dec 29, 2013 19:22 |  #14

Just ordered a 430exii with 622c's and rechargeables. Now to learn now to use this!


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Dec 29, 2013 19:34 |  #15

Btw...is there an adapter so I can mount the flash in my vanguard alta pro tripod?


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