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Dec 29, 2013 22:25 |  #16

WillMass wrote in post #16563016 (external link)
Better than asking a bunch of people you don't know, you should to test shots at various settings and see what YOU like. It's digital you have instant feedback

Why post anything in the forum then? Isn't that how we get to know people here. Just a thought.




  
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Dec 30, 2013 11:53 |  #17

CAPhotog wrote in post #16563226 (external link)
Why post anything in the forum then? Isn't that how we get to know people here. Just a thought.

Well sure, if you want to emulate the unknown results of other people, who's work you're not necessarily familiar with. Besides you learn much more when you experiment, and get it right or fail, than you do by simply asking. At least that what my professor used to tell me when my lab experiments went up in smoke. :) I agree that asking and developing a baseline has a place. But I can assure you there are many people who's work I would not want to copy.


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Dec 30, 2013 12:53 |  #18

WillMass wrote in post #16564260 (external link)
Well sure, if you want to emulate the unknown results of other people, who's work you're not necessarily familiar with. Besides you learn much more when you experiment, and get it right or fail, than you do by simply asking. At least that what my professor used to tell me when my lab experiments went up in smoke. :) I agree that asking and developing a baseline has a place. But I can assure you there are many people who's work I would not want to copy.

While experimentation is great, asking others can send you in a direction you might not have thought of on your own. Its up to each person to decide for themselves which ideas work for them or not.




  
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Dec 30, 2013 13:06 |  #19

I experiment PLUS ask for help or information on here. I have learned so much from those minds on here who know a lot more about lighting than I do. I have saved lots of money also but trying alternatives on here.




  
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Dec 30, 2013 13:45 |  #20

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While experimentation is great, asking others can send you in a direction you might not have thought of on your own. Its up to each person to decide for themselves which ideas work for them or not.

Yup, which is why I suggested it. Because the OP asked if she was "doing it right". I got the impression that she did not try it out to see what the results were. If the results were the results she wanted, then who cares, if it was done "right". I was involved in a recent discussion about constant light sources. For boudoir, I prefer using constant light rather than strobes. Sometimes I'll crank the ISO, and go places that some of my colleagues would not. They would say I'm "doing it wrong" but as long as I get the result my client and I want, who really cares if it's right or wrong?


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Dec 30, 2013 15:42 |  #21

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Sometimes I'll crank the ISO, and go places that some of my colleagues would not.

ewwwww, that's just nasty.


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Dec 30, 2013 17:59 |  #22

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=he's gone;16564849]ewwwww, that's just nasty.

Technically speaking that is. lol


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Dec 31, 2013 12:06 |  #23

I don't understand all these comments about it being too big. I can imagine it being cumbersome, but normally you want to increase the size of the light source. (hence bouncing it off the wall)


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Dec 31, 2013 22:39 |  #24

Brea wrote in post #16558994 (external link)
I bought a big white fan at a dollar store than just attached elastic bands to it... I attached the fan to the SIDE of the flash, is this correct? I will be shooting an event tomorrow, hoping to just use it as fill flash OUTDOORS, help please :(

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Quite ghetto - but I like it! Generally speaking, bigger is better when it comes to on-camera (and also often off-camera) flash solutions. Since you're outside there is nothing to bounce the light off coming straight up from the flash, but you might get more traction from this setup than you think. Attaching to the side (rather than back) of the flash allows you to use in portrait orientation. But as others have mentioned a flash bracket might be a better choice. You can get a good flash bracket of ebay for $15.


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Jan 01, 2014 06:07 |  #25

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The bigger the card the more like direct flash it will look.

I originally read this and thought - what is Shooting smoking?

But actually this is true in certain circumstances.

When a bounce card is pointing straight up, the larger the bounce card, the more light that will get reflected forward. There will be a point where the bounce card becomes so large that any forward reflected light will look very soft anyway, but for very small bounce cards, switching from a business card sized bounce card to an A4 sized bounce card will probably yield more harsher looking results due to the additional direct flash. Just a theory.

I don't use any bounce cards


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Jan 01, 2014 13:09 |  #26

Here is a design you may me interested in. I made one for less than $10. However like smorter I'm not much of a bounce card user.

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Jan 01, 2014 16:46 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #27

This is how you do it.

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or this...

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Jan 01, 2014 16:50 |  #28

^ at that point, why not just have a softbox on a wheeled stand, and tie a rope to my belt to pull the stand around with.



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Jan 01, 2014 17:43 |  #29

Dan Kearley wrote in post #16566860 (external link)
I don't understand all these comments about it being too big. I can imagine it being cumbersome, but normally you want to increase the size of the light source. (hence bouncing it off the wall)

it's different, you should understand physics,
also different purpose between bouncing on ceiling and bounce card purpose


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Jan 01, 2014 18:29 |  #30

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or this...

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given the choice, I'd choose being the guy in the post below, over being the guy in the post above.

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in fact, i'd rather miss the shot than be the guy in the plaid shirt. :lol:


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