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Dec 30, 2013 12:48 |  #1

ok, So I picked up an AB1600. I shoot a 5dmiii. I have searched over and over and seem to be confused over this. I currently have catus V5 triggers. and can not sync over 1/200. I was looking at upgrading to different triggers to make the high speed sync possible. but I have read alot of mixed information on the subject. could someone steer me in the right direction? Do i need different triggers to do a high speed sync with the AB, or am I SOL on the subject


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Dec 30, 2013 12:52 |  #2
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Take a look at this: http://www.pocketwizar​d.com/videos/education​/webinar19 (external link)

Well worth the time.


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Dec 30, 2013 12:57 |  #3

Thanks! I will watch it when I get home from work


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Dec 30, 2013 16:05 |  #4

japanbran wrote in post #16564400 (external link)
ok, So I picked up an AB1600. I shoot a 5dmiii. I have searched over and over and seem to be confused over this. I currently have catus V5 triggers. and can not sync over 1/200. I was looking at upgrading to different triggers to make the high speed sync possible. but I have read alot of mixed information on the subject. could someone steer me in the right direction? Do i need different triggers to do a high speed sync with the AB, or am I SOL on the subject

The basic limitation on shutter speed with DSLRs and flash is not related the triggering mechanism. It has to do solely with the focal plane shutter and its timing. Some very slow triggers may add to the need for a slower shutter speed. No hardware is going to allow you to exceed the "maximum sync speed" with a studio flash.

That said, there are some combinations of hardware and timing trickery that's typically called "HyperSync". However, this is strictly an experimental mode as there is no handheld flash meter that can provide proper exposure settings for hypersync setups.

"High Speed Sync" is a trick that Canon Speedlites (and some clones) can do. In order to accomplish their trick, they emit a string of very short pulses of light for the duration of the travel of the focal plane shutter. In effect, the Speedlite becomes a continuously on light source for the duration of the shutter travel.


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Dec 30, 2013 16:29 |  #5

japanbran wrote in post #16564400 (external link)
ok, So I picked up an AB1600. I shoot a 5dmiii. I have searched over and over and seem to be confused over this. I currently have catus V5 triggers. and can not sync over 1/200. I was looking at upgrading to different triggers to make the high speed sync possible. but I have read alot of mixed information on the subject. could someone steer me in the right direction? Do i need different triggers to do a high speed sync with the AB, or am I SOL on the subject

High Speed Sync can not be "technically" performed by Studio Strobes, only by speedlites. However, there are some tricks that can be done that will allow you to set your camera's shutter at a higher than sync speed and still produce usable images.....


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Dec 30, 2013 19:41 |  #6
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Do note that HSS (High Speed Sync) is not the same as HyperSync. As a matter of fact the latter is a registered patent of PocketWizard: HyperSync (external link), whereas the former is what SkipD described and is done by flash guns: Canon or other brands.


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Dec 30, 2013 22:14 |  #7

Something else to ask is what is the goal?
Reduce DOF in daylight?
Stop action / less ghosting in strobe lit action shots?
Testing equipment / just to do it?




  
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Dec 30, 2013 22:55 |  #8
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Shooting wide open in bright daylight and overpowering the sun are the usual applications. It's not uncommon to find oneself in such situations.

I just ordered a couple of cables to try it with my FlexTT5 and my Integras. I'll prolly report back on the results.


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Dec 31, 2013 04:34 |  #9

The YN-622C triggers can do supersync with some strobes depending on their characteristics, reference page 5 in CliveyBoy's 622 user guide:

https://docs.google.co​m …FpqNkpBYXBHajA/​edit?pli=1 (external link)

However, the AB1600s are on the unusable list.




  
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Dec 31, 2013 09:42 |  #10

Alveric posted a good video on hypersync. Thanks - I bookmarked it. Here is Pocket Wizards video on high speed sync. Good animations and you don't need PW if the flash is on camera. Also many other flash trigger systems offer HSS.

http://www.pocketwizar​d.com …wizard_controlt​l_optimiz/ (external link)


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Dec 31, 2013 10:00 |  #11

digital paradise wrote in post #16566534 (external link)
Alveric posted a good video on hypersync. Thanks - I bookmarked it. Here is Pocket Wizards video on high speed sync. Good animations and you don't need PW if the flash is on camera. Also many other flash trigger systems offer HSS.

http://www.pocketwizar​d.com …wizard_controlt​l_optimiz/ (external link)

If you're referring to "hypersync", that's what you should be writing as that is NOT "HSS" (Canon's "High Speed Sync" or a clone of it). It's extremely easy to totally confuse newbies to flash.


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Dec 31, 2013 10:02 |  #12

Get a leaf shuttered camera :D

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Dec 31, 2013 10:07 |  #13

SkipD wrote in post #16566564 (external link)
If you're referring to "hypersync", that's what you should be writing as that is NOT "HSS" (Canon's "High Speed Sync" or a clone of it). It's extremely easy to totally confuse newbies to flash.

I actually wasn't. If you open Alverics link the title says Hypersync. The OP asked about HSS so I posted a link to a video on HSS.


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Dec 31, 2013 14:23 |  #14

lots of good info. My reason I posted it was A. to overpower the sun wide open. and B. to see if it was possible with the AB as I have seen people do it before, just wasnt sure how. I have always used speedlights and bought the ab1600 to mess around with.


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Dec 31, 2013 17:50 |  #15

Informative video

http://www.diyphotogra​phy.net …tains-and-high-speed-sync (external link)


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