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Dec 29, 2013 11:15 |  #556

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Dec 29, 2013 11:19 |  #557

70D ISO 6400 - my colleague´s daughter :)

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Dec 29, 2013 11:50 |  #558

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Dec 29, 2013 20:23 as a reply to  @ Voaky999's post |  #559

60D ISO 4000

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Dec 29, 2013 21:18 |  #560

ISO 8000 on the 6D, NR around 10 for luminance in LR4

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Jan 01, 2014 09:21 |  #561

This looks awesome...nice photo as well. What run?


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Jan 01, 2014 09:33 as a reply to  @ idsurfer's post |  #562

ISO 4000, 60D w- 100-400L @ 400mm, 100% crop.

I've worked on this a lot, it is literally the first image I've ever denoised. I'd like it to be as nice as possible, so any C/C is greatly appreciated! Thanks for looking.

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Jan 01, 2014 09:46 |  #563

jrandall wrote in post #16568934 (external link)
ISO 4000, 60D w- 100-400L @ 400mm, 100% crop.

I've worked on this a lot, it is literally the first image I've ever denoised. I'd like it to be as nice as possible, so any C/C is greatly appreciated! Thanks for looking.

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Without seeing the original RAW, it's hard to tell. To me it seems over NR'd, as the details appear soft, almost 'melted'.

It takes a while to get your bearings and start sensing what is 'too much'. The too little is easy, you still see noise.

I would suggest, if I may, to shoot both RAW and JPEG at the same time. Use standard NR on the JPEG, the 60D in-camera NR is pretty decent. Then try to establish a workflow that can match or exceed the results of the JPEG. It's not easy, but eventually you 'll get there. It took me the better part of a year to match the internal JPEG NR in the 60D.

If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them in a PM, so we don't derail the thread..

EDIT: I don't mean to sound discouraging. It is a good effort for a first attempt! :D


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Jan 01, 2014 14:54 |  #564

MakisM1 wrote in post #16568973 (external link)
Without seeing the original RAW, it's hard to tell. To me it seems over NR'd, as the details appear soft, almost 'melted'.

It takes a while to get your bearings and start sensing what is 'too much'. The too little is easy, you still see noise.

I would suggest, if I may, to shoot both RAW and JPEG at the same time. Use standard NR on the JPEG, the 60D in-camera NR is pretty decent. Then try to establish a workflow that can match or exceed the results of the JPEG. It's not easy, but eventually you 'll get there. It took me the better part of a year to match the internal JPEG NR in the 60D.

If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them in a PM, so we don't derail the thread..

EDIT: I don't mean to sound discouraging. It is a good effort for a first attempt! :D

Bird photography is probably more demanding than any other category of photography when it comes to preserving details -- it is better to have some noise than to smooth out some of the feather details. Even with the noise filtering, I would say that the snowy owl image is a wall hanger. Personally, I feel that the noise filtering in ACR/LR and DPP soften details too much for bird images (OK, for some other types of photography) so I have been using Neat Image and might give some of the other like Noise Ninja and Topaz De Noise a try. Overall, I am fairly satisfied with Neat Image (I use the Photoshop plug-in version).

BTW, some camera models now allow in-camera JPG creation after the fact which AFAIK is identical to RAW+JPG.

Here is an ISO 3200 image made with my 7D of a barn swallow where noise is still quite visible -- but there really is nothing wrong with noise as long as a decent image is captured. Noise has always been a part of photograph.

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Jan 01, 2014 14:57 |  #565

ISO 4000 the first 2 I actually added a bit more grain because I like it...the last one is what ISO 4000 looks like on the 5D MKiii


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Jan 01, 2014 15:05 |  #566

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Jan 01, 2014 16:13 |  #567

MakisM1 wrote in post #16568973 (external link)
Without seeing the original RAW, it's hard to tell. To me it seems over NR'd, as the details appear soft, almost 'melted'.

It takes a while to get your bearings and start sensing what is 'too much'. The too little is easy, you still see noise.

I would suggest, if I may, to shoot both RAW and JPEG at the same time. Use standard NR on the JPEG, the 60D in-camera NR is pretty decent. Then try to establish a workflow that can match or exceed the results of the JPEG. It's not easy, but eventually you 'll get there. It took me the better part of a year to match the internal JPEG NR in the 60D.

If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer them in a PM, so we don't derail the thread..

EDIT: I don't mean to sound discouraging. It is a good effort for a first attempt! :D

Bill Boehme wrote in post #16569733 (external link)
Bird photography is probably more demanding than any other category of photography when it comes to preserving details -- it is better to have some noise than to smooth out some of the feather details. Even with the noise filtering, I would say that the snowy owl image is a wall hanger. Personally, I feel that the noise filtering in ACR/LR and DPP soften details too much for bird images (OK, for some other types of photography) so I have been using Neat Image and might give some of the other like Noise Ninja and Topaz De Noise a try. Overall, I am fairly satisfied with Neat Image (I use the Photoshop plug-in version).

BTW, some camera models now allow in-camera JPG creation after the fact which AFAIK is identical to RAW+JPG.

Here is an ISO 3200 image made with my 7D of a barn swallow where noise is still quite visible -- but there really is nothing wrong with noise as long as a decent image is captured. Noise has always been a part of photograph.

Thank you both, I appreciate the feedback. Definitely not discouraging! I don't want to derail the thread but I do want to put in a short reply just to clarify how heavily cropped the Snowy Owl image is. The whole bird easily fits in a box 750x550 pixels, or barely 2% of the frame. So I totally agree it lacks detail, but I think that's mostly because there weren't a whole lot of pixels to start with. :wink:


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Jan 01, 2014 16:16 |  #568

Awesome! I love Indy Jones! :cool:


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Jan 01, 2014 16:48 |  #569

Well, since we are at it, here is one attempt with mild NR and some sharpening.

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As I mentioned in my PM, reducing the size of the photo (if it weren't sych a heavy crop) reduces noise without NR.

This is a 500x500 without NR, just sharpening

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A WORD OF CAUTION:If you look at the images at a magnification of over 100% you will be seeing artifacts that your viewer creates. For my HD monitor (roughly 2000 pixels in the horizontal) the upper photo should be half the monitor in size and the lower a quarter.

I normally have some magnification on the browser for my tired eyes (150%):D

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Jan 01, 2014 17:06 |  #570

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