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Jan 04, 2014 15:08 |  #1

I always wanted to take pictures of dogs and dogs only. The main thing I wanted to capture is dogs running and playing outside and me being in a safe distance lol After al lot of research I bought the Canon EOS 40d (back then the newest model) and a 70-200 4.0. It was the perfect lens for me but even though I'm just a hobby photographer the 4.0 wasn't gonna cut it anymore and I upgraded to the 2.8. It's the perfect lens for me but I missed to capture a lot of goofy and precious moments since this freakin" lens is soooo big and I'm unable to shoot nice pictures inside. I took it on vacation once but it's not exactly handy.

I know that the 24-70mm 2.8 from canon would be the most perfect lens but it's waaaay over my budget and I don't really want to buy a used or refurbished one. Since I'm only a hobby photographer and only want to take pictures of my dogs or maybe kids someday, don't have to print anything etc and just want a " everyday workhorse" lens I don't really need one of the prime ones.

I looked at some Tamron lenses, watched videos, reviews etc. I can't decide between the 24-70-mm 2.8 VC and the 17-50 2.8 VC. Since I have a cropped sensor, would the 17-50 almost be close to 24-70?

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Jan 04, 2014 15:15 |  #2

Do you need a zoom?
Maybe consider the 40mm pancake, 50mm or 85mm in 1.4?


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Jan 04, 2014 15:32 as a reply to  @ FarmerTed1971's post |  #3

I never had a non zoom lens so I'm not really sure since I zoom in and out quite a bit




  
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Jan 04, 2014 15:44 |  #4

Angela-Benita wrote in post #16577509 (external link)
...just want a " everyday workhorse" lens ...

EF-S 18-135 IS STM; EF-S 18-55 STM; EF-S 15-85 IS
If you need faster, consider the 17-50 lenses from Tamron or Sigma. The EF-S 17-55/2.8 is likely to be out of your price range.

Since I have a cropped sensor, would the 17-50 almost be close to 24-70?

No, it will be 17-50. The 24-70 would be 24-70. Focal length does not change based on the format. You can safely ignore "crop factor" in your considerations. Be concerned only with the focal length you need on your format.




  
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Jan 04, 2014 15:52 |  #5

Angela-Benita wrote in post #16577552 (external link)
I never had a non zoom lens so I'm not really sure since I zoom in and out quite a bit

Ahh, then a whole new world awaits you. Enjoy!


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Jan 04, 2014 16:14 |  #6

xarqi wrote in post #16577584 (external link)
EF-S 18-135 IS STM; EF-S 18-55 STM; EF-S 15-85 IS
If you need faster, consider the 17-50 lenses from Tamron or Sigma. The EF-S 17-55/2.8 is likely to be out of your price range.


No, it will be 17-50. The 24-70 would be 24-70. Focal length does not change based on the format. You can safely ignore "crop factor" in your considerations. Be concerned only with the focal length you need on your format.

I really want the 2.8 though. The 17-50 from Tamron seems to be a good one. Can anybody tell me anything about the Sigma?

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #16577593 (external link)
Ahh, then a whole new world awaits you. Enjoy!

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Jan 04, 2014 16:20 |  #7

I have the Canon 15-85mm EF-S and it takes amazing pictures. It has IS as well so you can get some extra stops out of it. Its perfect indoors as it can basically go from 24-135. You get the wide as well as the zoom. Many reviews say its L quality. There is a whole thread on it on photography-on-the-net.




  
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Jan 04, 2014 16:50 |  #8

tincanman99 wrote in post #16577648 (external link)
I have the Canon 15-85mm EF-S and it takes amazing pictures. [...] Its perfect indoors as it can basically go from 24-135.

No, it can go from 15 to 85; that's it.




  
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Jan 04, 2014 17:55 |  #9

Hilarious avatar, it looks like a camel! :)

If you're willing to look into prime lenses, I'd recommend the Canon EF 80mm f/1.8.
It's well within your budget, it gives you a comfortable shooting distance and is a fast-focusing demon. In fact, it's one of Canon's fastest focusing lenses. And, to top it all of, it has a nice big aperture. Not to mention it's nice and sharp!

Best of luck.


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Jan 04, 2014 17:55 |  #10

xarqi wrote in post #16577700 (external link)
No, it can go from 15 to 85; that's it.

Agreed. I don't see the point in making comparisons to the equivalent FOV on a FF when you're not using a FF.

To the OP, I'd also recommend the 15-85, as has been mentioned it has very good image quality and the range is very usable for a wide variety of images. In my experience unless you are happy bumping up the ISO you'll struggle with moving subjects in low light though.


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Jan 04, 2014 17:58 |  #11

andrikos wrote in post #16577842 (external link)
Hilarious avatar, it looks like a camel! :)

If you're willing to look into prime lenses, I'd recommend the Canon EF 80mm f/1.8.
It's well within your budget, it gives you a comfortable shooting distance and is a fast-focusing demon. In fact, it's one of Canon's fastest focusing lenses. And, to top it all of, it has a nice big aperture. Not to mention it's nice and sharp!

Best of luck.

If the 70 end of the OP's 70-200 2.8 is TOO long, an 85 isn't going to help her at all.


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Jan 04, 2014 18:02 |  #12

I have and use the Canon ef-s 17-55, also a very nice lens. You should not be totally against buying a used lens from someone on this forum. I have bought several and have been quite happy. I just purchased a Canon 24-105 f/4 and it arrived in great condition. You can save a lot on these expensive lenses.


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Jan 04, 2014 18:17 |  #13

The new 24-70 is a very nice lens but it may not be wide enough on a crop body. The 17-50 is equally sharp but the focus is too slow for what you want to do with it.

I would say the Canon 17-55IS as suggested or even the Sigma 18-35 perhaps but it's not cheap.


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Jan 04, 2014 19:08 |  #14

One of the top pet photographers in the country teaches that the 24-70 2.8 L on a FF is the best main lens for dog photography. Yet there are several professional pet photographers who use the 24-105 on their FF.

If you are going to stick with a crop, then find the focal range equivalent. I started doing dog photography with my FF and 24-105, and found that in low light or certain overcast days, I am really pushing the needed shutter speed to freeze a running dog. Most of the images I saw from pet photographers who use the 24-105 are in bright sunny conditions. A 2.8 will give you the shutter speed you need in a wider variety of lighting set ups including indoors.

Keep in mind, unless you are doing studio photography with dogs sitting still, you will get a lot of exercise if you use a prime! Just look at what other established pet photographers are using as a guide.


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Jan 04, 2014 19:17 |  #15

Angela-Benita wrote in post #16577509 (external link)
I always wanted to take pictures of dogs and dogs only. The main thing I wanted to capture is dogs running and playing outside and me being in a safe distance lol After al lot of research I bought the Canon EOS 40d (back then the newest model) and a 70-200 4.0. It was the perfect lens for me but even though I'm just a hobby photographer the 4.0 wasn't gonna cut it anymore and I upgraded to the 2.8. It's the perfect lens for me but I missed to capture a lot of goofy and precious moments since this freakin" lens is soooo big and I'm unable to shoot nice pictures inside. I took it on vacation once but it's not exactly handy.

I know that the 24-70mm 2.8 from canon would be the most perfect lens but it's waaaay over my budget and I don't really want to buy a used or refurbished one. Since I'm only a hobby photographer and only want to take pictures of my dogs or maybe kids someday, don't have to print anything etc and just want a " everyday workhorse" lens I don't really need one of the prime ones.

I looked at some Tamron lenses, watched videos, reviews etc. I can't decide between the 24-70-mm 2.8 VC and the 17-50 2.8 VC. Since I have a cropped sensor, would the 17-50 almost be close to 24-70?

Help!

Heya,

The 70-200 F2.8 is going to cover your outdoors.

Indoors, look to the shorter focal lengths, and faster apertures. If you're stuck on zooms, by all means, continue. If you want sharper, faster glass, get a prime.

Suggestions:

Tamron 24-70mm F2.8 (get the old one, half price new). Or pay twice the price of image stabilization (equivalent). Those focal lengths are great for inside. F2.8 is fast enough for indoors. But ideally, you should just be using a flash for best indoor photographing. The F2.8 should be more of a depth of field option than a light gobbling option really.

Canon EF 35mm F2 IS. Indoor photography without a flash, it will do it, and sharp, wide open. Short enough to be 1.5 feet away from your target. Gorgeous bokeh/blur. Fast. Sharp. Really can take photos in the low light nicely. Highly recommended.

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