Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
Thread started 04 Jan 2014 (Saturday) 19:36
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Canon 50mm f/1.4 vs Zeiss 50 f/1.4

 
n1as
Goldmember
2,330 posts
Likes: 24
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Salem, OR
     
Jan 04, 2014 19:36 |  #1

Same shot, both at f/1.4, one Zeiss, one Canon.

Can you see a difference? They are closer than I though they'd be.


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.



HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


- Keith
http://darwinphoto.zen​folio.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
n1as
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
2,330 posts
Likes: 24
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Salem, OR
     
Jan 04, 2014 19:37 |  #2

And here is the same pair at f/2.0


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.



HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


- Keith
http://darwinphoto.zen​folio.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Rashkh
Senior Member
Avatar
286 posts
Likes: 7
Joined May 2011
Location: NYC
     
Jan 04, 2014 21:00 |  #3

It may be my shooting almost exclusively with my macro recently, but they both look incredibly soft. Having said that, it seems that focus is slightly different for each lens.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JohnCollins
Senior Member
Avatar
539 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Nov 2005
Location: Philadelphia area
     
Jan 04, 2014 21:00 |  #4

Wow! Those are close!

I'm going to stick my neck out and guess Canon = top, Zeizz = bottom?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Jerobean
Senior Member
785 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2008
     
Jan 04, 2014 21:03 |  #5

Rashkh wrote in post #16578182 (external link)
It may be my shooting almost exclusively with my macro recently, but they both look incredibly soft. Having said that, it seems that focus is slightly different for each lens.

incredibly soft.

hyperbole much?

also, I can't say a picture of a pepper grinder is a great test of anything.


_______________
6d, 24-105L, Tak SMC 50 1.4, 85 1.8, 135L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
n1as
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
2,330 posts
Likes: 24
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Salem, OR
     
Jan 04, 2014 22:15 |  #6

Coffee grinder, actually. They are focused within a mm or two of each other. Focus point is on the knurled knob at the center of the grinder.


- Keith
http://darwinphoto.zen​folio.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
n1as
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
2,330 posts
Likes: 24
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Salem, OR
     
Jan 05, 2014 06:53 |  #7

JohnCollins wrote in post #16578183 (external link)
Wow! Those are close!

I'm going to stick my neck out and guess Canon = top, Zeizz = bottom?

Top is Zeiss bottom is Canon.

Hint - Open each image in a separate tab, then swap between tabs. You'll see the differences more readily.


- Keith
http://darwinphoto.zen​folio.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
eddie3dfx
Senior Member
486 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Sep 2009
     
Jan 05, 2014 07:46 |  #8

Go outside and take pictures.
The zeiss 50 f2 is superior in closer photos..... the planar 50 is better when the subject is further away.... same goes for the 135 sonnar... At first I thought something was faulty on my sonnar
2.5-2.8 is where this lens really shines for portraits.. f2 is still a bit soft
I have done similar testing between the 50mm 1.8 and zeiss 50mm 1.4.. in just at home point n shoot images, they were similar.
When it came to actual real life work, I noticed a difference. The zeiss renders scenes different and has better micro detail and color. The zeiss is a more natural lens.. colors a bit cooler (it also depends on the coating, as ze is different than the mmj, mmg, hft, aeg, and aej.. all have their own unique look
The 50mm 1.8 is a very good lens, but the planar 50 is an amazing lens.


F5.6 jpeg right out of the camera (+7 sharpness, neutral everything else)

IMAGE: http://s8.postimg.org/5x5g7hcv9/IMG_9476.jpg

Canon 6D, Canon L 24-105, Zeiss Distagon 28mm 2.8, Planar 50mm 1.4, Planar 85mm 1.4, Sonnar 135mm 2.8 & Zeiss Mutar 2x, Canon 50mm 1.8
http://www.edwinraffph​otography.com/ (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
whiteflyer
Goldmember
Avatar
1,711 posts
Gallery: 215 photos
Likes: 741
Joined Jun 2006
Location: Lancashire, England
     
Jan 05, 2014 08:01 |  #9

Looking at those, am afraid to say in my option anyone who bought a Zeiss is a mug.

For me the canon are the better images and at half the price.


Whiteflyer Photography (external link) | Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
gasrocks
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
13,431 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2005
Location: Portage, Wisconsin USA
     
Jan 05, 2014 11:41 |  #10

The Zeiss 50/1.4 is not their best lens. I prefer the Sigma 50/1.4 myself.


GEAR LIST
_______________

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
n1as
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
2,330 posts
Likes: 24
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Salem, OR
     
Jan 05, 2014 15:15 |  #11

whiteflyer wrote in post #16579018 (external link)
Looking at those, am afraid to say in my option anyone who bought a Zeiss is a mug.

For me the canon are the better images and at half the price.

Well, I suppose that depends on what you're after. The Zeiss gives a "different" looking bokeh which can be seen just a little in the first 2 images. If you're looking for creamy smooth bokeh, zeiss is NOT it (until about f/4).

gasrocks wrote in post #16579586 (external link)
The Zeiss 50/1.4 is not their best lens. I prefer the Sigma 50/1.4 myself.

The Planar 50 is indeed their worst lens but it does things many other 50's doesn't do. The Sigma is almost anti-Zeiss; sharp wide open and much smoother bokeh wide open. Stopped down (f/5.6) the Zeiss is sharper than the Sigma. Well, at least my prior ZE50 was compared to the Sigma 50 1.4 I had.


- Keith
http://darwinphoto.zen​folio.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Dillan_K
Goldmember
Avatar
1,100 posts
Gallery: 36 photos
Likes: 365
Joined Apr 2009
Location: Calgary Canada
     
Jan 05, 2014 20:17 |  #12

My guess is bottom one is Canon and top is Zeiss. You sure get a lot of criticism for a simple, silly question.


Gear: Canon 24mm f/2.8, 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.8 Macro, 300mm f/4L IS, 5D, Elan 7, 420EX, Metz 52 AF-1
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EverydayGetaway
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
10,591 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 3799
Joined Oct 2012
Location: Bowie, MD
     
Jan 06, 2014 00:24 |  #13

n1as wrote in post #16580044 (external link)
Well, I suppose that depends on what you're after. The Zeiss gives a "different" looking bokeh which can be seen just a little in the first 2 images. If you're looking for creamy smooth bokeh, zeiss is NOT it (until about f/4).

The Planar 50 is indeed their worst lens but it does things many other 50's doesn't do. The Sigma is almost anti-Zeiss; sharp wide open and much smoother bokeh wide open. Stopped down (f/5.6) the Zeiss is sharper than the Sigma. Well, at least my prior ZE50 was compared to the Sigma 50 1.4 I had.

That's in line with everything I've read. I was tempted to buy the Zeiss, or even the old C/Y mount version... but now that I bought a Yashica ML 50/1.4 I really don't feel the need to upgrade yet. I really do admire the way Zeiss lenses render though.


Fuji X-Pro2 // Fuji X-H1 // Fuji X-T1 // Fuji X-100T
flickr (external link) // Instagram (external link)www.LucasGPhoto.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Alveric
Goldmember
Avatar
4,598 posts
Gallery: 38 photos
Likes: 1052
Joined Jan 2011
Location: Canada
     
Jan 06, 2014 01:10 |  #14
bannedPermanent ban

Hmm, dunno what to think. I've been ambivalent on buying the Zeiss 50mm 1.4. I'm a bit put off by its focus shift, though.


'The success of the second-rate is deplorable in itself; but it is more deplorable in that it very often obscures the genuine masterpiece. If the crowd runs after the false, it must neglect the true.' —Arthur Machen
Why 'The Histogram' Sux (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
n1as
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
2,330 posts
Likes: 24
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Salem, OR
     
Jan 06, 2014 05:54 |  #15

Dillan_K wrote in post #16580835 (external link)
My guess is bottom one is Canon and top is Zeiss. You sure get a lot of criticism for a simple, silly question.

Yes, that seems to happen to most of my posts. Maybe it is just me? Maybe I really do post stupid things?

Alveric wrote in post #16581458 (external link)
Hmm, dunno what to think. I've been ambivalent on buying the Zeiss 50mm 1.4. I'm a bit put off by its focus shift, though.

As was I with the first one I had. I sold it after seeing its horrid bokeh, focus shift and lack of sharpness from f/1.4 through about f/2.8. But then I began to look more at the rendering. I've developed a like for the bokeh which I now see as more like painting. I also realize that sharpness is just fine from f/2 on. So far I haven't been burned by the focus shift so we'll see.


- Keith
http://darwinphoto.zen​folio.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

3,740 views & 0 likes for this thread
Canon 50mm f/1.4 vs Zeiss 50 f/1.4
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is karozenix
1015 guests, 303 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.