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Lens - Which one should I get?

 
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Jan 04, 2014 19:29 |  #16

Angela-Benita wrote in post #16577635 (external link)
I really want the 2.8 though. The 17-50 from Tamron seems to be a good one. Can anybody tell me anything about the Sigma?

I own the Sigma and love it. Mine is very sharp wide open and autofocus is fast and silent. I went with the Sigma over the Tamron because I had heard the Tamron's AF was slow. I would highly recommend the Sigma.


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Jan 04, 2014 19:31 |  #17

Angela-Benita wrote in post #16577635 (external link)
I really want the 2.8 though. The 17-50 from Tamron seems to be a good one. Can anybody tell me anything about the Sigma?

The Sigma's nice, I really like it so far. The only thing I don't like is that the focus ring turns during AF, which isn't a very big deal at all.


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Jan 04, 2014 21:34 as a reply to  @ RunAmok's post |  #18

andrikos wrote in post #16577842 (external link)
Hilarious avatar, it looks like a camel! :)

Hahaha that's my Chessie :D

Thank you so much guys.

I certainly don't plan to take pictures of running dogs in the house hahaha For the running part I have the 70-200mm 2.8 (for outside) and I love it.

The second "everyday" kind of lens I want is just going to be for maybe portraits, etc. I want to be able to, for example take pictures of my dogs paws from underneath while they are hanging off the couch but right now the couch would have to hang from the ceiling to have enough room for the big lens lol. Or take pictures of them while they are sitting at the patio door, looking outside at birds without having to sit in the next room (jk lol). I've never had a prime lens and always had and used zooms. I'm just scared that I'll be moving around so much more without being able to zoom in but the Canon EF 35mm F2 IS sure looks nice and is in my price range.

The 24-70mm from canon would be great and I know a professional photographer that shoots with it but I don't really want and can't spend that much for a "hobby". I'm just kind of confused and overwhelmed and find out about new lenses everyday.

So prime lens would be the Canon EF 35mm F2 IS

Mid range zooms would be

Tamron 17-50mm 2.8 (With VC I guess)
Tamron 24-70mm 2.8 VC

Sigma 15-50
sigma 18-35mm f1.8

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM has been mentioned too I think

I would actually like to spend around $600. Is the lens more expensive it will just take longer for me to save up the money for it and I'm not only terrible with making decisions but also terrible when it comes to waiting hahaha




  
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Jan 04, 2014 21:48 |  #19

Lens shopping, how fun!


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Jan 04, 2014 21:48 as a reply to  @ LHeyden's post |  #20

Yes but I can't decide which one :(




  
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Jan 04, 2014 21:57 |  #21

Haha! You know you will end up with all of them sooner or later. Just pick one and put the next one on your list and so on, and so forth!


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Jan 04, 2014 22:42 |  #22

Angela-Benita wrote in post #16578266 (external link)
Tamron 17-50mm 2.8 (With VC I guess)
Tamron 24-70mm 2.8 VC

Sigma 15-50
sigma 18-35mm f1.8

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM has been mentioned too I think

I would actually like to spend around $600.

I plugged some values into the selection filter at BH Photovideo and came up with these based on:
Canon mount; f/2.8 or faster; standard zoom; under $650.
These would seem to be your choices unless you do opt for a prime, but in my opinion, you would be better suited with a zoom at this stage.

Tamron 28-75/2.8 @ $499
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_28_75mm_f_2_8_​XR_Di.html (external link)

Tamron 17-50/2.8 @ $499
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_17_50mm_f_2_8_​XR_Di.html (external link)

Tamron 17-50/2.8 VC @ $649
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_SP_AF_17_50mm_​f_2_8.html (external link)

The 28-75 dovetails nicely with your 70-200, but 28 isn't at all wide on APS-C, which may be a factor.
As for the other two, the difference seems to be whether you get VC ( = IS) or not. Since you want a fast aperture, you may be able to get adequate shutter speeds to compensate for camera movement without VC/IS, but if you can swing it, it's nice to have.




  
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Jan 04, 2014 23:38 as a reply to  @ post 16577988 |  #23

Maybe something like the new Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4 ($500) paired with a used 430EXII ($200) would work for you.

I take pictures of my dog more than anything else. While a fast lens is great for taking shots of him inside in low light, even a 1.4 is not fast enough sometimes. You also have to think....as you stop down to 2.8 or lower, your DOF becomes more shallow. With dogs, the distance between the nose and the eyes is even more than it is with people. So, what happens is this....using autofocus, you catch the nose a lot, and shooting at 2.8, you basically miss focus a lot. You get a shot with a nose in focus, and the eyes way out of focus. If you add a flash to the mix, you can move your aperture up and really get the shot you want.

The zoom is nice for dogs since they move so much, but a prime gives you a special look. If you are going to go with a prime, I would go with something 35mm or less. Going with a 40, 50, 85, or longer will prove to be frustrating when trying to frame your shot....from my experience, working with dogs is usually done in close proximity.

So....maybe get the best lens you can in your price range, and save for a flash.


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Jan 05, 2014 00:04 |  #24

If you get the Tamron 17-50, get the non VC, it's known to be a sharper lens in general. I have one and it's very nice. Oh and buy used. You can get either the 28-75 or the 17-50 non VC for under $300.


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Jan 05, 2014 04:18 |  #25

Angela-Benita wrote in post #16577509 (external link)
I always wanted to take pictures of dogs and dogs only. The main thing I wanted to capture is dogs running and playing outside and me being in a safe distance lol After al lot of research I bought the Canon EOS 40d (back then the newest model) and a 70-200 4.0. It was the perfect lens for me but even though I'm just a hobby photographer the 4.0 wasn't gonna cut it anymore and I upgraded to the 2.8. It's the perfect lens for me but I missed to capture a lot of goofy and precious moments since this freakin" lens is soooo big and I'm unable to shoot nice pictures inside. I took it on vacation once but it's not exactly handy.
Help!

I have been photographing dogs (Border Terriers) for over thirty five years, originally with Canon FtBN and A1 then EOS 600 film and now Canon digital. For the past six years I have used a Canon 40D and my main lenses have been EFS 17-85 mm zoom (Recently upgraded to the 15-85mm) 3.5-5.6 IS.USM lens and the EFS 55-250 mm 4.0-5.6 IS.USM.lens. I have found these two lenses perfectly adequate for the majority of my shots. (I do have other lenses which I have used such as the 100mm 2.8L IS.USM macro lens and the 300mm f4 L. IS.USM lens though I have rarely used them for dog photography). However, in the past two months things have changed rapidly, I have upgraded my 40D to a 70D. I can use this camera up to ISO 1000 without any appreciable noise, which has greatly increased my ability to take photos in low light. (Particularly useful at dog shows, where one doesn't want to use flash). I addition, with very little extra cost I bought with the 70D the 18-135mm 3.5-5.6 IS.STM lens. I have been amazed how good this lens is, and this is now the lens which sits on my camera.




  
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Jan 05, 2014 05:09 |  #26

Angela-Benita wrote in post #16577552 (external link)
I never had a non zoom lens so I'm not really sure since I zoom in and out quite a bit

Maybe so.
But what focal length do you end up shooting at?

Most people who own zooms compose by zooming in/out.
In the end though they end up using just 2, maybe 3, focal lengths more than others.

Hence, look at you photo exif data... find your common/most-used focal length and get a nice prime.


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Jan 05, 2014 09:12 |  #27

Get a fast prime in an fl you think is best, you will not regret it!


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Jan 05, 2014 09:37 |  #28

Shooting pics of my dogs is one of my biggest subjects. Guess having 10+ Labrador Retrievers (ours) as well as any number of others around the house (27 (Labs & other breeds) this past summer :rolleyes: ) it can be a challenge! Dogs are NOT the easiest subject to shoot, casually!

My feeling ... no matter what gear you use ... camera, lens, flash ... for every keeper you get, you will get many, many more non keepers! Takes LOTS of practice!

A faster lens IS one major step up and shooting outside in sunlight is also a major plus. Black (or dark color) dogs are a pain to shoot no matter what settings or gear you have and it takes a lot of practice.

I always prefer setting them up and getting the photos. Seems to work MUCH better!!! :)


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Jan 11, 2014 05:19 |  #29

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Get a fast prime in an fl you think is best, you will not regret it!

Agreed. The 24L and the 35L are sure not to disappoint!


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Jan 11, 2014 13:33 |  #30

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Agreed. The 24L and the 35L are sure not to disappoint!

Where are these available for $600?




  
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