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Jan 09, 2014 18:57 |  #1576

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Hey Peter I would agree with your friends' advice about getting the 400 over the 300. I had the 300 for awhile, and I used it with a TC 90% of the time, and i thought it worked well. Then i sold it and bought the 400. The AF speed and IQ blew me away compared to the 300 w/ TC. So if you use your TC often i would just get a 400.

Im also waiting on more reviews on the Tamron as Focal length is almost as important as IQ and i would love to have more reach!

Its gonna take a lot to pry that 400 5.6 from my hands though!

My problem with the 400 5.6 is me!! I am getting old and can't hand hold it anymore. I love this lens I think for the money it's one of the best




  
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Jan 09, 2014 19:08 as a reply to  @ post 16592350 |  #1577

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I was thinking of that early on when I heard about this lens. I'm guessing the Tamron setup would have better IQ even if it was a much weaker lens like a Sigma 150-500, which from the samples doesn't seem to be the case. FF just looks that forgiving with lenses and resolution and noise.

Though it sure will be a lot bigger set up and you'd hope you use the FF setup for other uses considering the premium being paid for the body (well, 6D excluded lol)


granted i haven't looked at all the samples, but the ones on flickr looked worse than my 150-500OS...but they were shot wide open for the most part, and i'm typically always stopped down to f8...


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Jan 09, 2014 19:08 |  #1578
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Canon 400mm f/5.6 has not so expensive price, but I'm afraid 400mm focal length on full-frame is not enough for birding and wildlife photography




  
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Jan 09, 2014 19:13 |  #1579

fivedmarkone wrote in post #16592423 (external link)
Canon 400mm f/5.6 has not so expensive price, but I afraid 400mm focal length on full-frame is not enough for birding and widelife photography

I think it would drive me buggy; but plenty of people produce some fantastic bird and wildlife images with the 400 and a ff body; especially with the 5DIII on the market now.


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Jan 09, 2014 19:21 |  #1580

mileslong24 wrote in post #16592296 (external link)
My prime is much sharper than the 2 copies of the zoom I had (one rented, one owned) and when it comes to AF speed its not even close.

I sold my NEW (current date code) 100-400 when it would struggle to focus on a surfer wearing a black wetsuit when he when in the shade of a barreling wave. A problem that my 400 5.6 and 300 F4 never have. Fortunately I still have the 2 primes. And yes, its not as convenient, but if you are missing shots, a lens has to go! Don't get me started on sharpness. I should have done a comparison video of the 3 lenses before I sold the 100-400.

In my opinion I see a lot of opportunity for Tamron, the 100-400 should be easy to compete with as far sharpness and AF speed, as the 100-400 is master of neither. Then add in the price and extra focal length and it seems like an obvious winner (assuming its sharp and can focus quickly) Can it be "prime sharp?" Seems hard to overcome the physics of simplicity.

The facebook Tamron user group seems to have a lot of sharp photos - and I've seen a couple flickr accounts that had some quality work. Better than the translated blog reviews I've seen so far.


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Jan 09, 2014 19:35 |  #1581

Andrushka wrote in post #16592447 (external link)
I sold my NEW (current date code) 100-400 when it would struggle to focus on a surfer wearing a black wetsuit when he when in the shade of a barreling wave. A problem that my 400 5.6 and 300 F4 never have. Fortunately I still have the 2 primes. And yes, its not as convenient, but if you are missing shots, a lens has to go! Don't get me started on sharpness. I should have done a comparison video of the 3 lenses before I sold the 100-400.

In my opinion I see a lot of opportunity for Tamron, the 100-400 should be easy to compete with as far sharpness and AF speed, as the 100-400 is master of neither. Then add in the price and extra focal length and it seems like an obvious winner (assuming its sharp and can focus quickly) Can it be "prime sharp?" Seems hard to overcome the physics of simplicity.

The facebook Tamron user group seems to have a lot of sharp photos - and I've seen a couple flickr accounts that had some quality work. Better than the translated blog reviews I've seen so far.

Do you have a link for them would love to see it too.


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Jan 09, 2014 19:52 |  #1582

Damn, the price is much better than I expected. Very glad I hadn't pulled the trigger on the Sigma 150-500 yet. Will definitely be waiting for a few weeks to see what users think.


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Jan 09, 2014 19:57 |  #1583

oxygen45 wrote in post #16592518 (external link)
Damn, the price is much better than I expected. Very glad I hadn't pulled the trigger on the Sigma 150-500 yet. Will definitely be waiting for a few weeks to see what users think.

I think there's little doubt that it's going to be better than the 150-500. It may not better the 50-500 (except for the longer f/l), but the 50-500 is better than the 150-500


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Jan 09, 2014 20:16 |  #1584

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I think there's little doubt that it's going to be better than the 150-500. It may not better the 50-500 (except for the longer f/l), but the 50-500 is better than the 150-500

but based off of what? i mean i haven't seen anything yet that supports that...aside from the initial tamron sample images i haven't been that impressed with the rest...of course i know that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be a dud...


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Jan 09, 2014 20:20 |  #1585

DreDaze wrote in post #16592573 (external link)
but based off of what? i mean i haven't seen anything yet that supports that...aside from the initial tamron sample images i haven't been that impressed with the rest...of course i know that doesn't necessarily mean it'll be a dud...

I agree, most of the images so far have not been brilliant. Given the price is so close though it seems prudent to wait.


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Jan 09, 2014 20:24 |  #1586

:D

Definitely I am buying one of these lenses and this is how I feel percentage wise.

Tamron 150-600 = 55%
Canon 400mm f5.6 = 45%

But if I win the lottery or anything above 100k
I am getting IDX and EF600mm IS USM II :D


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Jan 09, 2014 20:27 |  #1587

oxygen45 wrote in post #16592579 (external link)
I agree, most of the images so far have not been brilliant. Given the price is so close though it seems prudent to wait.

I don't have any sigma or bigmos but so far I am one of the few who is satisfied with samples online I am proud to accept that without any reservation. But I am still going to wait for more reviews and more photos from this thread.


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Jan 09, 2014 21:46 |  #1588

Peter2516 wrote in post #16592473 (external link)
Do you have a link for them would love to see it too.

https://www.facebook.c​om/TamronPhotoClub (external link) scroll down and look for the lens name in English in the midst of the Chinese characters

Here is a nice sharp bird:
https://www.facebook.c​om …7712219387&type​=1&theater (external link)

And some sharp eyelashes:
https://www.facebook.c​om …6274076859&type​=1&theater (external link)


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Jan 09, 2014 22:13 |  #1589

Andrushka wrote in post #16592782 (external link)
https://www.facebook.c​om/TamronPhotoClub (external link) scroll down and look for the lens name in English in the midst of the Chinese characters

Here is a nice sharp bird:
https://www.facebook.c​om …7712219387&type​=1&theater (external link)

And some sharp eyelashes:
https://www.facebook.c​om …6274076859&type​=1&theater (external link)

Thanks I appreciate it.


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Jan 09, 2014 23:17 |  #1590

Never had issues with 100-400L not tracking a surfer. Lot depends on what camera you use. Here are some with 1dmk2. Shooting from too high an angle though.

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Here is 500mm f4 BTW:
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Small birds I agree, 400mm f5.6 much better for that.

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