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Andrew ­ Hoang ­ Photography
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Jan 09, 2014 19:00 |  #1

Hey guys!

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I've been searching for a good portrait lens for my Canon 70D for 1-2 people. Currently, I have:
1. Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM
2. Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM
3. Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
4. Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
I mostly do outdoor portraits during "the golden hour", but I also will take some low light portraits at night. The 85mm is great once stopped down to f/2.8, but indoors it's too tight on a crop sensor (136mm) and I also take pictures for couples so I can't really use it for that application. The 24-105mm just doesn't give enough background separation for my taste and is a little on the slow side.
I've been looking at the Canon 50mm f/1.2L, but from all the reviews and research I've done, it seems to be a hit and miss lens. Either you get a really good copy, or some are really soft and focus shift. Some reviews rave about it, and others say it isn't worth it. From what I've read, the DOF is extremely shallow and is hard to nail until you get the hang of it. But from looking at sample pictures, I love the color rendition and bokeh. Sharpness doesn't have to be extremely great because it isn't extremely important in portraits (don't want pores showing).
The other option I've been looking at is the Canon 35mm f/1.4L. I've heard wonderful reviews about it, with great build quality, fast AF and wonderful IQ. I'm not sure if the lens is long enough for single person portraits (56mm equivalent) but I already have the 85mm to cover that. Does this lens' perspective make the subject's nose seem larger? I've read to stick to 70mm and longer for portraits in order to flatten the face and make the image more flattering.

I'm not set on either of these lenses, so any suggestions are welcome. Thanks for taking your time to read this!


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Jan 09, 2014 19:10 |  #2

I found the 50mm focal length pretty useful for portraits on a crop. I have a good copy of the Sigma 50 1.4 and have been happy with that. I hear that Sigma will be releasing a new 50 1.4 art, you may want to check that out.


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Jan 09, 2014 19:41 |  #3

In the price range of the lens you've listed, either the 50 1.4 which is on the short end for flattering for most portrait work because of perspective distortion, but very fast for the money. The the 100 f/2 which you didn't mention is a solid lens you should consider as well.

The other zooms simply aren't fast enough to give the subject separation most people expect in portraits. Not saying everything you're going to shoot will be wide open, but a good amount of it will be.




  
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Jan 09, 2014 21:04 |  #4

vengence wrote in post #16592485 (external link)
In the price range of the lens you've listed, either the 50 1.4 which is on the short end for flattering for most portrait work because of perspective distortion, but very fast for the money. The the 100 f/2 which you didn't mention is a solid lens you should consider as well.

The other zooms simply aren't fast enough to give the subject separation most people expect in portraits. Not saying everything you're going to shoot will be wide open, but a good amount of it will be.

I've heard that the 50mm 1.4's AF motor dies out really quickly (within 1-2 years). This is the only thing that has kept me from buying this lens.

The 100mm FL is a little long for what I want to do.


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Jan 09, 2014 21:06 as a reply to  @ Andrew Hoang Photography's post |  #5

I have an 85 1.8 which has worked wonders for me w/portraits. otherwise if your not interested in the 50 mabye the 60mm macro?


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Jan 09, 2014 21:41 |  #6

35L




  
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Jan 09, 2014 21:48 |  #7

Andrew Hoang Photography wrote in post #16592694 (external link)
I've heard that the 50mm 1.4's AF motor dies out really quickly (within 1-2 years). This is the only thing that has kept me from buying this lens.

The 100mm FL is a little long for what I want to do.

Pick up a 100 f/2 and a 50 f/1.8 and you're all set. ;)

As to the AF motor dying quickly, 3rd party warranty could easily place your mind at ease for about 13$.




  
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Jan 09, 2014 21:59 |  #8

I borrowed a Sigma 50mm 1.4 And OMG this is the Best Lens Ive put on my 70D
Use it for everything Now I just Purchased one I cant wait for it to arrive its 77mm Full frame
Large Lens


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Jan 09, 2014 23:07 |  #9

xarqi wrote in post #16592775 (external link)
35L

I've heard wonderful things about the 35L. Is it long enough for portraits on a crop sensor? I think the FL would be very useful for 2 people. I'm leaning towards getting a 35L as the FL equivalent on a crop is around 56mm, and you can get one for around $1,000 right now


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Jan 10, 2014 00:12 |  #10

Andrew Hoang Photography wrote in post #16592944 (external link)
I've heard wonderful things about the 35L. Is it long enough for portraits on a crop sensor? I think the FL would be very useful for 2 people. I'm leaning towards getting a 35L as the FL equivalent on a crop is around 56mm, and you can get one for around $1,000 right now

35 is close to "normal" for APS-C, while most portraits are taken with a short (or long!) telephoto. However, for your purposes of two-person portraits, you do need a bit of width, especially if you are inside. 50 could be OK, but may hamper you, and you can always crop if need be. Set your 24-105 to 35 and see how that focal length might work for you. With f/1.4 available with the 35L, you can get some shallow depth of field, but subject isolation comes about perhaps more from distance to the background rather than shallow DoF itself.

You ask about the "perspective" of the lens possibly causing large nose syndrome. This is not caused by the lens, but is a direct effect of the distance between the camera and the subject, regardless of the focal length.




  
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Jan 10, 2014 00:33 |  #11

I bought my camera with a 50mm F1.4
Effectively 75-80mm on our sensors and its perfect! Especially if you can afford the cost difference over the F1.8. Coupled to that, my Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 does really interesting wider portraits with good DOF and Background blur


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Jan 10, 2014 00:33 |  #12

Maybe a weird suggestion, but how about a used 5D? It would give a wider angle of view (85mm on 5D would be about the same angle as 50mm on crop)


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Jan 10, 2014 00:33 |  #13

xarqi wrote in post #16593041 (external link)
35 is close to "normal" for APS-C, while most portraits are taken with a short (or long!) telephoto. However, for your purposes of two-person portraits, you do need a bit of width, especially if you are inside. 50 could be OK, but may hamper you, and you can always crop if need be. Set your 24-105 to 35 and see how that focal length might work for you. With f/1.4 available with the 35L, you can get some shallow depth of field, but subject isolation comes about perhaps more from distance to the background rather than shallow DoF itself.

You ask about the "perspective" of the lens possibly causing large nose syndrome. This is not caused by the lens, but is a direct effect of the distance between the camera and the subject, regardless of the focal length.

Thanks for the clarification! I looked through the photos from my last shoot and most of them were in the 30-45mm range so it seems I'm already very comfortable with that focal length. Once again, thanks!


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Jan 10, 2014 06:40 |  #14

50L for BOKEHNESS


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Jan 10, 2014 08:50 |  #15

35L would be perfect for solo, couple or even a small group.
It works well on both FF and crop-sensor cameras. Not to mention, it is very forgiving even at 1.4.
My 85L at 1.2 takes a bit of precision but the 35L will give you lots of keepers even if you are being sloppy.




  
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