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Added weight is too much!

 
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Jan 09, 2014 19:11 |  #46

Sirrith wrote in post #16592361 (external link)
I wonder where the OP has disappeared off to? :roll:

He's at a gym lifting weights. :lol:



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Jan 09, 2014 19:45 |  #47

Yeah, sorry about complaining, the Sigma 200-500 2.8 can get heavy after a while. i'll keep it to a minimum.




  
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Jan 10, 2014 12:16 |  #48

Fester wrote in post #16583235 (external link)
OK, I read this all over the forum.
1) the lens is too heavy
2) battery grip adds too much weight
3) I want mirror less because of the weight savings

So I gotta ask... Are you serious?

Do you guys have no arm strength?
How weak are you really?
Do you ever go to the gym?
How do you guys travel, with more than an over night bag?
Did you trade in your Ipad2 for an iPad air because the 2 was too heavy?

Sure a set up can get heavy, but too heavy to use?

I just find this all too much to be for real.:rolleyes:

there are those that complain about the weight of things

and then there are those that complain about what others complain about...

no real difference between the 2


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Jan 10, 2014 12:20 |  #49

Fester wrote in post #16583235 (external link)
How do you guys travel, with more than an over night bag?

Travelling doesn't really compare... your travels will most likely begin with you standing in line, where most of the stuff you carry will be sitting on the floor or in a cart... and then for the most part, the plane/train/boat/car does all the heavy carrying, and all you do is put it in or take it out of the vehicle... and sometimes you're really lucky, and you tip a guy with a red cap to do that...


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Jan 10, 2014 15:20 |  #50

It only takes one bad incident to damage one's back. After that you are never the same.




  
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Jan 11, 2014 01:13 |  #51

Snow001 wrote in post #16594753 (external link)
It only takes one bad incident to damage one's back. After that you are never the same.

It doesn't even take a bad incident. Most of the sportsmen I know have back problems, perhaps deteriorated by g-forces, falls, and twists, but almost universally with an onset caused by incorrectly lifting something quite light. Like when you reach way back behind you and lift up a nine-pound camera/lens combination. Or like when you grab onto a tree and lean out to hand your camera bag to your buddy on the other side of the creek.


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Jan 11, 2014 02:12 |  #52

Surgeries - 2
Painkillers per day - you don't want to know
Weight matters? YES!!


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Jan 11, 2014 06:22 |  #53
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rklepper wrote in post #16583998 (external link)
Do you really want to open your mouth like this in public and remove all doubt. Perhaps a little thought before a post would do you some good.

Got to be one of the best come backs this year. Applaudbw!




  
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Jan 11, 2014 06:29 |  #54
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Sirrith wrote in post #16592361 (external link)
I wonder where the OP has disappeared off to? :roll:

He's at the gym bench pressing 300 lbs.:)




  
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Jan 11, 2014 07:49 |  #55

OP, do you even lift?


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Jan 11, 2014 08:10 |  #56

Not to further feed the troll, but the object of photography is, of course, to shoot quality photographs - not strengthen one's biceps. I may be physically able to "handle" a 10 pound or heavier setup, but a massive camera + lens + flash + battery grip combination can be unwieldy for handheld photography, resulting in missed shots. Muscle strain can also lead to increased camera shake and the dreaded "none of my photos are sharp" phenomenon. And, as mentioned already, photography isn't the gym. In most cases, you don't go get a drink of water, check yourself out in the mirror, and take selfies with your iphone after lifting a camera for 60 seconds.


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Jan 11, 2014 12:58 |  #57

Personally I have no issues lugging gear around. I carry a 7D, grip, pair of batteries, 85mm f/1.8, 28mm f/1.8, 40mm f/2.8, 430exII, 13" MacBook Pro, and a bunch of other odds and ends.

And this is my daily carry. The gear that goes with me when I pop out for a coffee with a friend or am heading to the office for my day job. Even more gear gets loaded on when I'm heading out to a dedicated shooting event.


And you know what? It is heavy. Yes, I put up with it because I find the weight of the gear to be an acceptable price to pay for the equipment I have on hand. It has a value to me, and I don't mind. I'm not going to judge other people for not wanting to lug everything I do everywhere they go, and on a few occasions I too will leave everything behind because I can't be bothered to lug it around with me. (And usually those cases are times when I get somewhere and someone is waiting and expecting me to have my gear with me...)

If I had the extra money I would likely invest in a smaller setup that is lighter to carry around for my daily carry, and then keep the heavier gear for more specific shoots where I know ahead of time that I want it for sure.


If someone never wants to carry all that extra weight, then what is the big deal?


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Jan 11, 2014 13:22 |  #58

As someone who is 45 and still hits the gym 3 days a week, and who is in very good shape muscle -wise and athletically for my age ( I can bench 200 regularly on my 5'8" / 170# frame), I can tell you that every year that goes by, it gets tougher and tougher to stay in shape. I was an average at best athlete in my high school and 20's aged days, but my knees and back, even with my physical shape now, well, the years have taken their toll.
I have no problems lugging camera gear around at this point, but I can certainly see problems coming over the next 10-15 years as my knees and back no doubt degenerate with age. Someone who is out of shape, even at my age of 45, let alone older, I could certainly see issues lugging around large lenses and camera gear all day.
Most of the pain issues that I experience now are, like the previous poster said, from improper lifting of light objects, twisting incorrectly, or trying to take a photo, cast a fishing rod or do something else from a stupidly wrong angle. Guaranteed back pain.
It really is 'walk a mile in someone else's shoes'.


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Jan 11, 2014 13:42 |  #59

Fester wrote in post #16583235 (external link)
OK, I read this all over the forum.
1) the lens is too heavy
2) battery grip adds too much weight
3) I want mirror less because of the weight savings

So I gotta ask... Are you serious?

Do you guys have no arm strength?
How weak are you really?
Do you ever go to the gym?
How do you guys travel, with more than an over night bag?
Did you trade in your Ipad2 for an iPad air because the 2 was too heavy?

Sure a set up can get heavy, but too heavy to use?

I just find this all too much to be for real.:rolleyes:

Well, I currently am recovering from a broken shoulder, so anything but a P&S is too heavy.

Then you have people who are very old and because of different medical conditions may start to shake when the gear gets too heavy.

Then you shouldn't ignore the fact that if you put on a really long lens, then the weight will way forward of the camera. Now hold this camera up in the ready position for a couple of hours and it just might start to feel heavy.

Next thing - lots of people do not carry just one camera. They may carry two cameras (with different lenses mounted) and then maybe a bag with 2-3 more lenses, a flash, extra batteries, some filters, ...

Or maybe they are talking about a camera they carry in their everyday bag together with lots of other stuff, i.e. not just a camera but clothes, purse, a gun, a laptop, a couple of chargers, a bottle of water, ....

It really is hard to try to decide what is too heavy for someone else. And expecting a bit of gym time will matter is to dumb down this problem too much - it isn't that simple. Some people may walk with a cane. Some have had surgery. Some have arthritis.


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Jan 11, 2014 13:47 |  #60

Somebloke wrote in post #16584538 (external link)
I can understand from a female perspective-that is valid, but a individuals health problems should be included. For example if a 5 year old girl posts on here that a 70-200 is to heavy is that opinion valid? No, because the majority of users arent 5 year old girls, just as the majority of users arent temporarily or chronically ill....

That 5 year old girls view is extremely valid. Because that is the view she has to follow when deciding what she wants to carry around.

What isn't valid, is your view that what is applicable to "everyone" would be applicable. It's up to each reader to filter and make own decisions - but not to think other views are invalid.


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