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Nov 29, 2013 14:17 |  #1

Hi, anyone use this lens for motorsport, even better if they do on a 5d3 and in low light at times as well (eg dusk and dawn, Le Mans, Oldtimer Grand Prix etc etc). I would be very interested in the views / experiences of people that do.

I have the 300f2.8 and also tend to put the 100-400 or 70-200f2.8 and the other 5d3. I ofter find myself at 400mm and f4.0 would be better then f5.6 when the light is fading I think

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Nov 29, 2013 14:30 |  #2

I own it. I've compared it to a 300 f/2.8 IS L with a 1.4x, and other than the bokeh (different on the DO) I could not see any difference in IQ.


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Nov 29, 2013 15:35 |  #3

S.Horton wrote in post #16488631 (external link)
I own it. I've compared it to a 300 f/2.8 IS L with a 1.4x, and other than the bokeh (different on the DO) I could not see any difference in IQ.

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Nov 29, 2013 20:27 |  #4

One of the well known guys that shoots V8 Supercars full time uses one, I asked him his thoughts on it the other year and he responded "it's as good as the 2.8, but a stop slower and a heck of a lot lighter, I shoot during the day so that stop doesn't really bother me, and my back thanks me at the end of the day"

After 3 days lugging a 400 f2.8 I get what he is saying, I was ready to trade down to a lighter lens too.

I haven't actually used one though, so take my comments with a grain of salt, I have read that the lens has funny looking Bokeh due the diffractive elements


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Nov 29, 2013 20:32 |  #5

I prefer my 300 f/2.8 IS + 1.4x II over the 400 f/4 IS DO. Performance is similar, maybe a little in the favor of the 400 DO, but it's a hard lens to resell. Plus I like the option of going 300 at f/2.8.

If you plan on keeping the 300, I suggest looking at the 500 f/4 IS also.


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Nov 30, 2013 06:04 as a reply to  @ Staszek's post |  #6

Thanks Guys
I think I would find, based on two full race seasons, 500 too long even on the 5d3 :cool:




  
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Nov 30, 2013 07:30 |  #7

I dunno about that -- you have a FF, I'll bet you could use a 500.

The only reason to own a DO is weight. I do love being able to sling it over my shoulder and hike around all day.

A 400 f/2.8 or 500 f/4, nah, too big.


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Nov 30, 2013 15:00 |  #8

One of the best motorsports photographers I have seen, Jamey Price, shoots mainly with a 400 2.8 and 1.3x (Nikon). That puts him at 520mm. Check him out before you throw a 500 out - http://jameypricephoto​.com/blog/category/blo​g/ (external link)


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Nov 30, 2013 15:47 |  #9

Staszek wrote in post #16490838 (external link)
One of the best motorsports photographers I have seen, Jamey Price, shoots mainly with a 400 2.8 and 1.3x (Nikon). That puts him at 520mm. Check him out before you throw a 500 out - http://jameypricephoto​.com/blog/category/blo​g/ (external link)


We must get closer to the action in the uk (with media accreditation) as most use 300f2.8 with 1d3 over here :cool:




  
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Dec 01, 2013 04:38 |  #10

colintf wrote in post #16490943 (external link)
We must get closer to the action in the uk (with media accreditation) as most use 300f2.8 with 1d3 over here :cool:

Maybe. I just looked at his last blog post and he was shooting at 800mm at the Austin, Texas, F1 race.


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Dec 22, 2013 21:49 |  #11

Echo63 wrote in post #16489313 (external link)
One of the well known guys that shoots V8 Supercars full time uses one, I asked him his thoughts on it the other year and he responded "it's as good as the 2.8, but a stop slower and a heck of a lot lighter, I shoot during the day so that stop doesn't really bother me, and my back thanks me at the end of the day"

After 3 days lugging a 400 f2.8 I get what he is saying, I was ready to trade down to a lighter lens too.

I haven't actually used one though, so take my comments with a grain of salt, I have read that the lens has funny looking Bokeh due the diffractive elements

I second this.
I know the guy as well. His name is James Baker.
He's been using it for the best part of a decade (or more) and it produces som sensational images.
I also know someone who uses one for top level (Grand Slam) tennis and have had a play with it and had no probs.


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Dec 23, 2013 14:09 as a reply to  @ philwillmedia's post |  #12

Many thanks for the info :cool:




  
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Jan 11, 2014 14:59 |  #13

Apart from the extra weight, how would the 400 DO compare to the 200 f2.0 with the mk3 2x extender?

Anyone any ideas or tried it?

Many thanks
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Jan 11, 2014 20:59 |  #14

colintf wrote in post #16597151 (external link)
Apart from the extra weight, how would the 400 DO compare to the 200 f2.0 with the mk3 2x extender?

Anyone any ideas or tried it?

Many thanks
Colin

Extenders slow the AF down, and the 200f2.0 isn't that much smaller and lighter.
If you need a 400 - buying a 400 is the best option, whether you get a f5.6 or 2.8


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Jan 12, 2014 05:49 |  #15

Echo63 wrote in post #16598035 (external link)
Extenders slow the AF down, and the 200f2.0 isn't that much smaller and lighter.
If you need a 400 - buying a 400 is the best option, whether you get a f5.6 or 2.8


My line of thought is that the 200f2 would be good for the like of LeMans and the Oldtimer Grand Prix at night, and could then also double up as a 400f4

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