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Jan 12, 2014 19:09 |  #1786

Peter2516 wrote in post #16600347 (external link)
Out there already. Great!

I wonder if the local camera shop will call me soon then. They said it could be a few days or something before it's "released".


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Jan 12, 2014 19:14 |  #1787

Kickflipkid687 wrote in post #16600370 (external link)
I wonder if the local camera shop will call me soon then. They said it could be a few days or something before it's "released".

I am going to call the local stores tomorrow. I am hoping the one near my work will have by friday.


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Jan 12, 2014 19:17 |  #1788

Peter2516 wrote in post #16600347 (external link)
Out there already. Great!

Yes but only one of the Tamron reps appeared to be versed in it. They had some great photos to go with it.


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Jan 12, 2014 19:29 |  #1789

Talley wrote in post #16600353 (external link)
They have the 200-400 1.4x. They DO have a lens that competes. But its like 10x the price

It doesn't really compete, since it's for a totally different market. The Ferrari 599 roadster doesn't really compete with the sales of a Mazda MX-5 Miata.


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Jan 12, 2014 19:54 |  #1790

I don't know if anyone has posted this review yet? it has a couple sample pix... other than that.....

http://www.canonwatch.​com …c-usd-review-sample-pics/ (external link)


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Jan 12, 2014 19:58 |  #1791

eriet30 wrote in post #16600403 (external link)
Yes but only one of the Tamron reps appeared to be versed in it. They had some great photos to go with it.

I see! Well it is nice to hear some stores got it already. I expecting on friday with 2 local store here not that I would buy right away but just want to see it person.


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Jan 12, 2014 20:02 |  #1792
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davidc502 wrote in post #16600497 (external link)
I don't know if anyone has posted this review yet? it has a couple sample pix... other than that.....

http://www.canonwatch.​com …c-usd-review-sample-pics/ (external link)

Useless review. All the pics are badly taken (poor focus, motion blur). The pics look horrible and although the lens obviously will fall short to some mentioned already here, it will perform much better than those pics show.


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Jan 12, 2014 20:51 |  #1793
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Has someone on Photography-on-the owned this lens?




  
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Jan 12, 2014 22:33 |  #1794

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... then I know that this lens is going to give me less noise at high ISOs than my 100-400, with its smaller max aperture...

This does not make any sense to me. The 100-400 is a 5.6 and the Tammy a 6.3 (5.6 is the larger aperture 1/3 is not a lot though), which means less available light and you need higher ISO for the same "sensor saturation".

In any case there is one or two things most here, who compare this Tamron with the 100-400 seem to forget.

1. The lens is heavier, thus tracking a bird, race car or race bike will require a bit more effort.

2. The 100-400 has 2 IS modes. Mode 2 is very useful for panning and bird tracking. I am theorizing you have to turn VC on the Tamron off, but only testing this will tell.

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Jan 12, 2014 22:36 |  #1795

I believe that Tamron VC automatically detects panning motion and will only provide stabilization in the direction you are not panning. You can check the Tamron website for that.

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This does not make any sense to me. The 100-400 is a 5.6 and the Tammy a 6.3 (5.6 is the larger aperture 1/3 is not a lot though), which means less available light and you need higher ISO for the same "sensor saturation".

In any case there is one or two things most here, who compare this Tamron with the 100-400 seem to forget.

1. The lens is heavier, thus tracking a bird, race car or race bike will require a bit more effort.

2. The 100-400 has 2 IS modes. Mode 2 is very useful for panning and bird tracking. I am theorizing you have to turn VC on the Tamron off, but only testing this will tell.

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Jan 12, 2014 22:42 |  #1796

RAW-Shooter wrote in post #16600807 (external link)
This does not make any sense to me. The 100-400 is a 5.6 and the Tammy a 6.3 (5.6 is the larger aperture 1/3 is not a lot though), which means less available light and you need higher ISO for the same "sensor saturation".

In any case there is one or two things most here, who compare this Tamron with the 100-400 seem to forget.

1. The lens is heavier, thus tracking a bird, race car or race bike will require a bit more effort.

2. The 100-400 has 2 IS modes. Mode 2 is very useful for panning and bird tracking. I am theorizing you have to turn VC on the Tamron off, but only testing this will tell.

Cheers.

yeah, i was curious about that as well...but he stated he uses his 100-400L with a 2X TC on...so that's the gain for the tamron


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Jan 12, 2014 22:43 |  #1797

lescrane wrote in post #16600814 (external link)
I believe that Tamron VC automatically detects panning motion and will only provide stabilization in the direction you are not panning. You can check the Tamron website for that.

I did. Nothing there. Just something that could be interpreted as such. I doubt that though.

Two years ago similar claims were all over the internet that the Version 2 Canon 500 and 600 lenses would be able to detect the tripod and turn IS off. Turned out that nothing like this is mentioned in the user manuals of those lenses and Canon had to admit that their marketing department went a little "overboard".

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Jan 12, 2014 22:54 |  #1798

RAW-Shooter wrote in post #16600807 (external link)
This does not make any sense to me. The 100-400 is a 5.6 and the Tammy a 6.3 (5.6 is the larger aperture 1/3 is not a lot though), which means less available light and you need higher ISO for the same "sensor saturation".

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The 100-400 has f-stop f/5.6. But aperture 400/5.6 = 71 mm.
The 150-600 has f-stop f/6.3. But aperture 600/6.3 = 95 mm.

So the Tamron has a larger aperture, and lets in more light - the opening is about 80% larger so about 80% more light collected.

2. The 100-400 has 2 IS modes. Mode 2 is very useful for panning and bird tracking. I am theorizing you have to turn VC on the Tamron off, but only testing this will tell.

Some newer lenses has auto-detect of panning, so they need no switch to select IS mode. Without knowing about it, the Tamron just might have - remember that it saves money to remove a switch, and the sensor needed to figure out if you are panning is the same as the sensor needed to operate the IS. So just extra code lines (extra R&D cost) without extra production cost.


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Jan 12, 2014 22:56 |  #1799

http://www.tamron.com/​faq/en/faq3-3.html (external link)

this is what I remember reading

RAW-Shooter wrote in post #16600833 (external link)
I did. Nothing there. Just something that could be interpreted as such. I doubt that though.

Two years ago similar claims were all over the internet that the Version 2 Canon 500 and 600 lenses would be able to detect the tripod and turn IS off. Turned out that nothing like this is mentioned in the user manuals of those lenses and Canon had to admit that their marketing department went a little "overboard".

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Jan 12, 2014 22:58 |  #1800

lescrane wrote in post #16600870 (external link)
http://www.tamron.com/​faq/en/faq3-3.html (external link)

this is what I remember reading

Note that there is a different concept between detecting if on a tripod and automatically turning off IS, and auto-detecting panning and adjust the IS to only operate vertically or horisontally.

Edit:
This link claims that the Tamron 70-300 autodetects panning (but not tripod use):
http://www.photozone.d​e …/583-tamron70300f456eosff (external link)

So it would not be impossible that Tamron 150-600 also has autodetect of panning.


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