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Which is better for wildlife pics 70d or 6d?

 
norf
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Jan 12, 2014 14:41 |  #1

I am in the market for a new camera body and while I take all kinds of pics, wildlife is high on the priority list.

Obviously reach is important so the 70d crop has that advantage. But the 6d has great low light capablitly which is very useful for dusk and dawn.

I guess my main question is when the 6d is cropped down to the same level as the 70d which has the better image?

FYI, my main lens is the 70-300 L and have no plans on going much beyond that. Also I don't really like fidling with extenders. (actually selling mine)

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Jan 12, 2014 14:58 |  #2

I'd probably go with the 70D, myself, unless shooting close and from a blind is an option you'll be able to do frequently. The extra pixels on the subject will help a lot more than the higher ISOs, IMO. I wouldn't give my 7D up for any of the current FF bodies for my bird/critter shooting; but it would be nice to have a 6D or something to whip out for the landscape shooting while I'm waiting for subjects to show up :D


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Jan 12, 2014 17:29 |  #3

If you had a bigger lens in mind I would say a 6d would be a great all around body.
But if 300mm zoom is your longest lens possibility then the 70d will probably be most useful.

You can do wildlife up close but much of it will be a big crop even with the 70d so imaging cropping the 6d about 100% all the time.



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Jan 12, 2014 18:11 |  #4

Your situation, I'd recommend the 70D for the reasons you have mentioned.


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Jan 12, 2014 21:31 |  #5

70d IMO


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Jan 12, 2014 21:53 |  #6

I don't have a 70D but it sounds like what you are looking for. For long wildlife shots I use 500mm on a 60D. Closer in I will use the same lens on my 6D. Confined to 300mm I would go crop all the way.


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Jan 12, 2014 22:05 |  #7

I don't think you're going to find many recommendations for the 6D over the 70D simply because of reach. It is rare people ever wish they weren't so close to the wildlife (except when being mauled by a bear of course).




  
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Jan 12, 2014 22:06 |  #8
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Get 5D Mark III or 1DX, they're better than 6D for wildlife and action




  
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Jan 12, 2014 23:20 |  #9

Sometimes it's not possible or reasonable to spend 2x-6x the money.



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Jan 12, 2014 23:28 |  #10
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norf wrote in post #16599736 (external link)
I guess my main question is when the 6d is cropped down to the same level as the 70d which has the better image?

That depends on what wildlife you are talking about...

If 70D + 70-300L is long enough for the kind of wildlife you shoot, then cropped 6D image will be close if not better.

You should be more concerned about FPS and AF than crop factor when considering the 6D, in turn you get better ISO performance.




  
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Jan 13, 2014 13:33 |  #11

jhayesvw wrote in post #16600917 (external link)
Sometimes it's not possible or reasonable to spend 2x-6x the money.

this is one of those times:p




  
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Jan 13, 2014 13:37 |  #12

both
depends on the lenses that you have


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Jan 13, 2014 16:08 |  #13

I have both and I'd recommend the 70D, unless the vast majority of your shots are set up shots from a blind or hide where the wildlife gets close to you and stays at one place. Then I'd use my 6D for that for the better IQ since I'm not starving for reach.

The 70D will obviously give you a narrower angle of view with the same lens ( translate to more "reach" if you'd like), has better AF for wildlife action, faster frame rate, but the 70D's sleeper feature for wildlife, especially birds is the articulated screen and good live view AF. You can easily get very low angle shots without having to lie in mud/rocks/sand and neck cramps. I shot a bunch of awesome low angle shots from a comfortable body position thanks to the 70D AF and screen. Low angle shots isolate your subjects much better:

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Pelican 12 (external link) by gabebalazs (external link), on Flickr

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Pelican 8 (external link) by gabebalazs (external link), on Flickr

The 6D is no slouch either:

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Little Blue Heron 5 (external link) by gabebalazs (external link), on Flickr

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White Crowned Sparrow 6D 5 (external link) by gabebalazs (external link), on Flickr

6D wildlife action, AF servo tracking (with a Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS + 2x TC):

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Jan 13, 2014 16:16 |  #14

I don't know that I've ever seen a bird sit still for that long of an exposure (second Pelican); nicely done, Gabe!


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Jan 13, 2014 16:19 |  #15

Snydremark wrote in post #16602717 (external link)
I don't know that I've ever seen a bird sit still for that long of an exposure (second Pelican); nicely done, Gabe!

These guys (lots of them) sit there for a half an hour at least. This was taken at the wild bird center in Key Largo Florida. These were wild pelicans sitting on the Gulf of Mexico side of the island but they're quite tame, I felt like a kid in a candy shop! :)


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