Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
Thread started 15 Jan 2014 (Wednesday) 09:11
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

CPL filter question - which ones are good?

 
groundloop
Senior Member
984 posts
Likes: 37
Joined Jun 2012
     
Jan 15, 2014 09:11 |  #1

I just got a new to me used lens (Sigma 17-50 OS) and I know I'm going to want a CPL to use with it. I'm looking at several used ones, but have no clue which ones are good and which ones to avoid. Also, manufacturers like Hoya have several different offerings, and I don't know which ones are better. Advice from the experts will be much appreciated.

Some of the ones I'm looking at are Hoya CIR-PL, Hoya Alpha, Hoya Ultra, Hoya EVO, and Marumi DHG.


Thanks.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
titi_67207
Senior Member
Avatar
496 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Nov 2008
Location: Strasbourg, France
     
Jan 15, 2014 09:13 |  #2

Try Hoya "HD", it is worth the money. No loss of light (others often take 1 stop of light)

Titi


Canon 5D MkII + Sony A7 + 24x36 & 6x6 B&W film cameras .
CV 15 4.5 III | TS-E 24L II | FE 28 2 | (50+85) 1.4 | 135 2 | 70-200 4.0L | a collection of old Zuikos + FD + Adaptall + AI-s + M42

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
groundloop
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
984 posts
Likes: 37
Joined Jun 2012
     
Jan 15, 2014 09:22 |  #3

titi_67207 wrote in post #16607548 (external link)
Try Hoya "HD", it is worth the money. No loss of light (others often take 1 stop of light)

Titi


That one looks like it's out of my price range, unless I can find a killer deal on a used one.

How the heck can a polarizing filter not reduce light, by definition they're blocking a portion of the light?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
uOpt
Goldmember
Avatar
2,283 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Jun 2009
Location: Boston, MA, USA
     
Jan 15, 2014 09:25 |  #4

I used the opportunity of having a small front element lens (55mm) to buy a bunch of different ones. You can have the small ones cheap.

I gotta tell you that there are few difference in the outcome of the looks of the picture. As mentioned the t-stop (how much light they kill) is different but when I use a CPL it's usually when I have too much light anyway. There seem to be very few actual glass manufacturers for this.

For a large diameter filter I needed I went with the Marumi. Can't find anything wrong with it.


My imagine composition sucks. I need a heavier lens.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Aki78
Senior Member
Avatar
963 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 34
Joined Jun 2006
Location: New Hampshire USA
     
Jan 15, 2014 09:44 |  #5

B+W multi coated is great. Very deep saturation unlike other so-called multi-coated filters.

I didn't have good luck with the 77mm Marumi CPL's. The level of glare reduction on glass/water surface was sub-par at best. It was similar to Tiffen's cheap CPL filters.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Snydremark
my very own Lightrules moment
19,169 posts
Gallery: 58 photos
Likes: 3846
Joined Mar 2009
Location: Issaquah, WA USA
     
Jan 15, 2014 09:52 |  #6

Marumi, B+W and Hoya are all good; just be sure you're getting one of the multicoated ones. They help control flare and other aberration caused by the extra glass much better than bare glass and will be a bit easier to clean.


- Eric S.: My Birds/Wildlife (external link) (7D MkII/5D IV, Canon 10-22 f/3.5-4.5, Canon 24-105L f/4 IS, Canon 70-200L f/2.8 IS MkII, Canon 100-400L f/4.5-5.6 IS I/II)
"The easiest way to improve your photos is to adjust the loose nut between the shutter release and the ground."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Lien
Senior Member
280 posts
Joined Feb 2012
Location: NJ
     
Jan 15, 2014 10:16 |  #7

Snydremark wrote in post #16607603 (external link)
Marumi, B+W and Hoya are all good; just be sure you're getting one of the multicoated ones. They help control flare and other aberration caused by the extra glass much better than bare glass and will be a bit easier to clean.

Agreed, I have a few Marumi multicoated CPL filters which is working pretty well imo. Price is moderate compared to the expensive B+W options.


Canon 6D | Fuji X100 | Fuji XE-2 | Canon 24-105L | Canon 50 1.4 | Canon 85 1.8 | Canon EF 70-300 IS USM | 430EX | 270EX

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SkipD
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
20,476 posts
Likes: 163
Joined Dec 2002
Location: Southeastern WI, USA
     
Jan 15, 2014 10:23 |  #8

titi_67207 wrote in post #16607548 (external link)
Try Hoya "HD", it is worth the money. No loss of light (others often take 1 stop of light)

Titi

It is not possible for a polarizing filter (either a "linear" or "circular" type) to allow all the light that hits it to go through it. Depending on the filter's rotational position, all polarizing filters will block between 1 and 2 stops worth of light.


Skip Douglas
A few cameras and over 50 years behind them .....
..... but still learning all the time.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Aki78
Senior Member
Avatar
963 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 34
Joined Jun 2006
Location: New Hampshire USA
     
Jan 15, 2014 10:27 |  #9

Snydremark wrote in post #16607603 (external link)
Marumi, B+W and Hoya are all good; just be sure you're getting one of the multicoated ones. They help control flare and other aberration caused by the extra glass much better than bare glass and will be a bit easier to clean.

That's what I had with the Marumi's. Thinking it's Japanese and all that it may be good for $80. Nope. Color saturation weren't all that great either. B+W is expensive including Heliopan but I really think you do get what you pay for with these. Maybe I got a bad batch :\




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
felixshmak
Mostly Lurking
17 posts
Joined Jun 2013
Location: Hong Kong SAR
     
Jan 15, 2014 10:33 |  #10

How about Lee or Cokin? Can be used for all your lenses.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tenchiro
Member
104 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2013
     
Jan 15, 2014 10:56 |  #11

I am no expert but I have the B+W Slim-Line Multi-Coated Kaesemann CPL (external link) for my 17-50 and am very happy with the combo so far.

EDIT: I should say I ordered the Slim version but now that I look at it they actually shipped me the regular version...


~ Canon T3i ~ Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS HSM FLD ~ Rokinon FE14M-C 14mm f/2.8 ~
~ Sony NEX-6 ~ Sigma 30mm F2.8 DN | A ~ Sony E 16-50mm f/3.5-5.6 OSS ~
~ Super-Takumar 50mm f/1.4 ~ S-M-C-Takumar 135mm f/3.5 ~

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MakisM1
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,654 posts
Gallery: 28 photos
Likes: 386
Joined Dec 2011
Location: Houston
     
Jan 15, 2014 13:00 |  #12

titi_67207 wrote in post #16607548 (external link)
Try Hoya "HD", it is worth the money. No loss of light (others often take 1 stop of light)

Titi

SkipD wrote in post #16607671 (external link)
It is not possible for a polarizing filter (either a "linear" or "circular" type) to allow all the light that hits it to go through it. Depending on the filter's rotational position, all polarizing filters will block between 1 and 2 stops worth of light.

Amen! Otherwise we would have had a modern day miracle in our hands!

Question: Assuming that you use the camera light meter, it should take care of the exposure. The colors should appear more saturated.

Is there any hue change? From blue towards green?


Gerry
Canon 5D MkIII/Canon 60D/Canon EF-S 18-200/Canon EF 24-70L USM II/Canon EF 70-200L 2.8 USM II/Canon EF 50 f1.8 II/Σ 8-16/ 430 EXII
OS: Linux Ubuntu/PostProcessing: Darktable/Image Processing: GIMP

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
328iGuy
Goldmember
Avatar
3,623 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 717
Joined Dec 2004
Location: Ottawa | Ontario
     
Jan 15, 2014 13:11 |  #13

felixshmak wrote in post #16607699 (external link)
How about Lee or Cokin? Can be used for all your lenses.

If a Hoya HD is out of his budget, then why even suggest this? :confused:


EOS R5 | EOS R6 | EF 8-15L | RF 15-35L 2.8 | RF 24-70L 2.8 | RF 85L 1.2 | RF 70-200L 2.8 | RF 100-500L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Alveric
Goldmember
Avatar
4,598 posts
Gallery: 38 photos
Likes: 1057
Joined Jan 2011
Location: Canada
     
Jan 15, 2014 13:39 |  #14
bannedPermanent ban

Tenchiro wrote in post #16607758 (external link)
I am no expert but I have the B+W Slim-Line Multi-Coated Kaesemann CPL (external link) for my 17-50 and am very happy with the combo so far.

EDIT: I should say I ordered the Slim version but now that I look at it they actually shipped me the regular version...

Beat me to it. I only use B+W Kässeman CPLs, 'cept for an old Kenko I got many years ago. Make sure you get the multicoated, or the nano version which is easier to clean.

In your case, you'll need the slim version. Do note though, that at very short focal lengths (i.e. <20mm) you'll not get an even polarisation effect on the sky; sometimes it's best not to slap the CPL on and use a soft ND instead.


'The success of the second-rate is deplorable in itself; but it is more deplorable in that it very often obscures the genuine masterpiece. If the crowd runs after the false, it must neglect the true.' —Arthur Machen
Why 'The Histogram' Sux (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MakisM1
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,654 posts
Gallery: 28 photos
Likes: 386
Joined Dec 2011
Location: Houston
     
Jan 15, 2014 14:37 |  #15

Alveric wrote in post #16608182 (external link)
Do note though, that at very short focal lengths (i.e. <20mm) you'll not get an even polarisation effect on the sky;

How does this appear in the photo?


Gerry
Canon 5D MkIII/Canon 60D/Canon EF-S 18-200/Canon EF 24-70L USM II/Canon EF 70-200L 2.8 USM II/Canon EF 50 f1.8 II/Σ 8-16/ 430 EXII
OS: Linux Ubuntu/PostProcessing: Darktable/Image Processing: GIMP

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

2,945 views & 0 likes for this thread
CPL filter question - which ones are good?
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is apadula
880 guests, 237 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.