Photoshop Monitor Calibration problem?

Hi dear photographers,

Recently I bought the Dell XPS8700 desktop along with the dell monitor to make the editing easier/more fun on Photoshop.
However, when i installed the Photoshop and when I run it, it gives me an error message.
Specifically, it says "the monitor profile "Dell S2340L Color Proofile, D65" appears to be defective. Please return your monitor calibration software "

But that's not the worst. The worst is that the colors of pictures when i load them into photoshop are waaaaay off. They look very yellowish. Whats weird even when I open the RAW pictures (in bridge) they look absolutely fine, but as soon as I load them to Photoshop, its yellowish.

Anyone had that problem?
Its so frustrating spending even more time/effort with the better equipment lol. Have spent the last week just setting up my computer.

Any help greatly appreciated !!!

Van Gogh wrote in post #16616635
Hi dear photographers,

Recently I bought the Dell XPS8700 desktop along with the dell monitor to make the editing easier/more fun on Photoshop.
However, when i installed the Photoshop and when I run it, it gives me an error message.
Specifically, it says "the monitor profile "Dell S2340L Color Proofile, D65" appears to be defective. Please return your monitor calibration software "

But that's not the worst. The worst is that the colors of pictures when i load them into photoshop are waaaaay off. They look very yellowish. Whats weird even when I open the RAW pictures (in bridge) they look absolutely fine, but as soon as I load them to Photoshop, its yellowish.

Anyone had that problem?
Its so frustrating spending even more time/effort with the better equipment lol. Have spent the last week just setting up my computer.

Any help greatly appreciated !!!

Lead us through how you calibrated your monitor.

Was the profile Dell S2340L Color Profile, D65 installed by driver software that you received on a disk with the monitor? If yes, run the disk again and it may overwrite the corrupted profile and correct the fault. If this doesn't help, download the profile from the Dell web site and replace the corrupted one. If you really want to do accurate photo editing and printing you should get a calibration/profiling hardware kit and make your own profile, which will probably solve the problem.

Bob_A wrote in post #16616691
Lead us through how you calibrated your monitor.

I didn"t do no calibration whatsoever, just using the default pre-sets that came up with the Dell.

tzalman wrote in post #16616748
Was the profile Dell S2340L Color Profile, D65 installed by driver software that you received on a disk with the monitor? If yes, run the disk again and it may overwrite the corrupted profile and correct the fault. If this doesn't help, download the profile from the Dell web site and replace the corrupted one. If you really want to do accurate photo editing and printing you should get a calibration/profiling hardware kit and make your own profile, which will probably solve the problem.

Yes it was installed by the driver software.
Ok I will try to re-install the profile again and see if it solves the problem.

I don't see the point of calibration software's, aren't the pre-sets modes that computers come with supposed to be optimized and optimally calibrated already?

Van Gogh wrote in post #16616979
I didn"t do no calibration whatsoever, just using the default pre-sets that came up with the Dell.

That may be a good portion of the difficulty. A lot of times they come straight from the factory not.....quite right. Am I correct in assuming that you don't have a monitor calibration device like a Spyder for example?

That being said I believe the tzalman's suggestion may be the easiest and least intrusive option at this point. Hope it works out for you; keep us posted - we'll keep making suggestions .

sapearl wrote in post #16616987
That may be a good portion of the difficulty. A lot of times they come straight from the factory not.....quite right. Am I correct in assuming that you don't have a monitor calibration device like a Spyder for example?

That being said I believe the tzalman's suggestion may be the easiest and least intrusive option at this point. Hope it works out for you; keep us posted - we'll keep making suggestions .

Thanks will try it and let u guys know !!!

The point of calibration hardware (a physical color measuring device that is placed on the monitor and reports to its dedicated software which uses the measurements to write a profile of the ways in which the monitor deviates from displaying known color values) is that (a) individual units are not calibrated in the factory (maybe expensive professional graphic monitors are, but certainly not Dells), (b) calibration does not correct deviation from accuracy because it is impossible - it records those deviations so that color managed applications like PS can compensate for them, (c) color rendering changes as the monitor warms up and also as it ages and (d) no two units, even of the same model, are the same. The maker profiles one unit and supplies a generic profile that is "sort of" representative of the model but does not portray any other single unit.

Photographers who want/need color accuracy are a small segment of the monitor market and if any "optimization" is done it is aimed at producing the eye-ball scorching artificial colors beloved by gamers. Photographers who print and want to be able to predict the appearance of the print and those who supply images to others who use calibrated monitors, calibrate their monitors. If you edit images primarily for web sharing, complete color fidelity may not be a priority because the vast majority of your viewers will not be using calibrated monitors and the generic profile will suffice.

tzalman wrote in post #16617544
The point of calibration hardware (a physical color measuring device that is placed on the monitor and reports to its dedicated software which uses the measurements to write a profile of the ways in which the monitor deviates from displaying known color values) is that (a) individual units are not calibrated in the factory (maybe expensive professional graphic monitors are, but certainly not Dells), (b) calibration does not correct deviation from accuracy because it is impossible - it records those deviations so that color managed applications like PS can compensate for them, (c) color rendering changes as the monitor warms up and also as it ages and (d) no two units, even of the same model, are the same. The maker profiles one unit and supplies a generic profile that is "sort of" representative of the model but does not portray any other single unit.

Photographers who want/need color accuracy are a small segment of the monitor market and if any "optimization" is done it is aimed at producing the eye-ball scorching artificial colors beloved by gamers. Photographers who print and want to be able to predict the appearance of the print and those who supply images to others who use calibrated monitors, calibrate their monitors. If you edit images primarily for web sharing, complete color fidelity may not be a priority because the vast majority of your viewers will not be using calibrated monitors and the generic profile will suffice.

I am sold.
Having gone so far and bought a decent computer just for better Photoshop experience it would be stupid not to properly calibrate the monitor as well.
Any particular calibration software recommendations?

Van Gogh wrote in post #16617880
I am sold.
Having gone so far and bought a decent computer just for better Photoshop experience it would be stupid not to properly calibrate the monitor as well.
Any particular calibration software recommendations?

I am currently using Spyder 4 from DataColor. Other popular products are Eye-One (i1) from X-Rite, Color Munki and Huey.

I also use the Spyder 4 Pro and love it. Once calibrated, with the click of a button you can see the image using the uncalibrated view and then click over to the calibrated view. I was incredibly surprised at the greenish tint, low contrast and light blacks displayed with the uncalibrated view. I bought this a year ago and am sold and will never go without a calibrated monitor again!

tzalman wrote in post #16617902
I am currently using Spyder 4 from DataColor. Other popular products are Eye-One (i1) from X-Rite, Color Munki and Huey.

I will second the Spyder 4. I find it to be accurate, affordable, easy to use and it performs as advertised.

Some years back I had the old Eye-One (it may have changed since then) and I found it to be rather clunky to use. I didn't care for the interface and found it to be cumbersome and timeconsuming - hence, I didn't recheck my calibration very often. In all fairness though they may have improved over what I used to own.

I don't know what happened, but I used the internal calibration software (didn't change anything except Gamma radiation) and now my PS displays colors correctly (not overly warm).

I really don't know what was the problem. I want to understand the issue here ...
My new pre-set calibration software says sRGB, maybe my monitor was RGb and Photoshop RGB ... Don' think so though ....

By the way, speaking of RGB vs sRGB, in Photoshop color setting, its set to sRGB, should I set it to RGB?

P.S. Still will get the spyder calibration software. Its worth it probably.

RGB is the designation for one of the ways of describing a color image. It quantifies the image colors as combinations of the three primary additive colors; red, green and blue. There are also several other methods, for instance HSL (hue, saturation, luminance) or CMY (the subtractive primaries). RGB is, therefore, a generic name for dozens of different color spaces, some of them universal and device independent "work" spaces for editing and transferring images and others are device specific, but the most often used universal spaces are sRGB, Adobe RGB (many people make the mistake of saying "RGB" when they mean "Adobe RGB") and ProPhoto RGB. sRGB was created in the early '90s by Microsoft and HP as a generic space that would roughly fit most CRT monitors and it is still used by Windows as its default display profile when none other is available. It is very generic because it was designed to be universal. Since the essence of color management in applications like Photoshop is that the display data sent to the monitor is adjusted to compensate for the monitor's characteristics and in order to do so the app reads whatever profile is being used by the OS, if the OS is set to default to sRGB the color management is, in effect, cancelled.

Another Photoshop setting up related question.

In Edit/Preferences/Perfo​mance should I set my scratch disk files to be saved on the same hard drive the phoroshop and OS's are saved or to another HDD?

My photoshop and operating system are saved on SSD, drive C. Should I save scratch files on C as well or my other HHD (D)

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