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Jan 19, 2014 10:08 |  #3391

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Jan 23, 2014 09:59 |  #3393

Doc Fluty wrote in post #16614590 (external link)
I have the wide one on mine.. never a problem with vignetting on the lee big stopper or grads... but when i add the 105mm circ Pol filter... it always jacks up the corner

I'm not sure if you can screw the Lee filter holder to my polarizer. You can screw another filter on top of it, but that might cause vignetting, maybe? Why were you using a 105mm polarizer instead of an 82mm sized one?

I'm asking because this is one of the lenses I'm considering as my go-to wide angle.


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Jan 23, 2014 11:34 |  #3394

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I'm not sure if you can screw the Lee filter holder to my polarizer. You can screw another filter on top of it, but that might cause vignetting, maybe? Why were you using a 105mm polarizer instead of an 82mm sized one?

I'm asking because this is one of the lenses I'm considering as my go-to wide angle.

You might be able to physically make it work with your current polarizer, but you're right - you'd have significant vignette and probably difficulty adjusting the rotation of your CPL.

The Lee system gives you two good options for a CPL:

1. A 4x4 filter to slide in behind your grads. Being a square, you can only adjust it in 90 degree increments but that never bothered me and it's an awesome CPL. There is little/no vignette even with the CPL and 2 other filters.

2. There is a 105mm CPL holder made by Lee that allows you to fit this large CPL in front of your grads. This option introduces a bit of vignette especially wide open, but nothing like attaching the Lee system to the front of your current CPL would create. This is also a great CPL and allows you to fine tune the rotation since it's just a large round CPL.

As you may have guessed, I prefer #1 because of the lack of vignette and the price vs the 105mm setup.

Although, I've since given up on grads and switched exclusively to exposure blends so a high quality regular 82mm CPL works best for me. Only thing I feel I miss out on with this setup is the Big Stopper which was more of a novelty for me.


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Jan 23, 2014 16:06 |  #3395

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Jan 23, 2014 17:35 |  #3396

MNUplander wrote in post #16629932 (external link)
You might be able to physically make it work with your current polarizer, but you're right - you'd have significant vignette and probably difficulty adjusting the rotation of your CPL.

The Lee system gives you two good options for a CPL:

1. A 4x4 filter to slide in behind your grads. Being a square, you can only adjust it in 90 degree increments but that never bothered me and it's an awesome CPL. There is little/no vignette even with the CPL and 2 other filters.

2. There is a 105mm CPL holder made by Lee that allows you to fit this large CPL in front of your grads. This option introduces a bit of vignette especially wide open, but nothing like attaching the Lee system to the front of your current CPL would create. This is also a great CPL and allows you to fine tune the rotation since it's just a large round CPL.

As you may have guessed, I prefer #1 because of the lack of vignette and the price vs the 105mm setup.

Although, I've since given up on grads and switched exclusively to exposure blends so a high quality regular 82mm CPL works best for me. Only thing I feel I miss out on with this setup is the Big Stopper which was more of a novelty for me.

I have a 77mm one and would rather not buy a new one. You can screw filters on top of it so you can of course screw more on top, the thing is at 77mm plus step-down or up or whatever ring it is plus a lee ring, that's a lot of stuff piled on top of the lens, it would most likely vignette. Hm...


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Jan 23, 2014 18:26 |  #3397

Slapping on a lee 105mm ring and CPL enables you to buy one filter to use with all of your lenses.

So with the foundation and 105 ring i can use my neutral density grads, reverse grads, cpl and lee big stopper all together and without needing to buy separate size filters to fit my 67mm, 77mm, 82mm and other lens filter sizes.

the set up looks like this:

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I have not worked with the 4x4 circ pol... but it looks like i will soon.

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Jan 23, 2014 18:53 |  #3398

Maverique wrote in post #16630896 (external link)
I have a 77mm one and would rather not buy a new one. You can screw filters on top of it so you can of course screw more on top, the thing is at 77mm plus step-down or up or whatever ring it is plus a lee ring, that's a lot of stuff piled on top of the lens, it would most likely vignette. Hm...

You will have major vignette issues with a step up ring and the 77mm filter alone, before you even start talking grads or nd. At the very least you'll need a standard 82mm cpl, probably a thin mount. No sense spending 1.8 k on a lens only to cheap out on a filter.


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Jan 24, 2014 02:18 |  #3399

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Jan 24, 2014 18:58 |  #3400

Doc Fluty wrote in post #16631018 (external link)
Slapping on a lee 105mm ring and CPL enables you to buy one filter to use with all of your lenses.

So with the foundation and 105 ring i can use my neutral density grads, reverse grads, cpl and lee big stopper all together and without needing to buy separate size filters to fit my 67mm, 77mm, 82mm and other lens filter sizes.

the set up looks like this:

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I have not worked with the 4x4 circ pol... but it looks like i will soon.

Have you tried this with the zeiss 21 doc?

Does anyone know how much vignetting you get when stopped down with the lee wide angle holder with the 105mm CPL on the front? I am thinking of grabbing this for my zeiss 21 very soon


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Jan 24, 2014 20:05 |  #3401

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Have you tried this with the zeiss 21 doc?

Does anyone know how much vignetting you get when stopped down with the lee wide angle holder with the 105mm CPL on the front? I am thinking of grabbing this for my zeiss 21 very soon



Yes, I have. Using the 21mm together with the lee 105mm circular polorizer produces the results i talked about previously in post #3390 of this thread.

here is another image with the lens correction turned off using the 105mm filter at 2.8. It shows the corners with heavy light loss.

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In the following images, i used the zeiss 21mm stopped down to f/2.8 with this Hoya 82mm HD2 Circular Polarizer Filter. (external link) It didn't give me the cut corners the 105mm ring did.. but i still got heavy vignetting.


I have labeled them "Base" which is the base image with maybe just a touch of brightness added so you can see the vignetting. Having the CPL on seemed to make the 5d3 under expose heavily. I applied the exact same settings to the second image and just checked "enable lens profile correction" in ACR. The resized and saved to jpeg.

Usually clicking that option really helps the vignetting. from that point you can go on to edit the images pretty nicely.

here are some examples.

base

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with "enable lens profile correction" checked

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with "enable lens profile correction" checked

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Jan 25, 2014 10:18 |  #3402

It was Ishbel's birthday this weekend, we had a one night stay booked at a Hotel close to Aberfoyle which is part of the Trossachs, Scotland.
Was early afternoon and the weather was turning out bad/grey/dull/boring, about twenty minutes before we arrived at the Hotel I spotted beautiful Loch Ard in all it's mystical glory.
No time to set-up the tripod and Lee filter system as the rain was coming down, so I hand held this shot, bumped up the iso as the light was poorly and bracketed shots as I always do.


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Jan 25, 2014 14:17 |  #3403

Driving through the Trossachs on my way to Aberfoyle I spotted this scene, love the colours and tree line scenery.


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Jan 25, 2014 15:57 |  #3404

As it was Ishbel's birthday this weekend I got all romantic and bought her a few different coloured bunches of beautiful roses.
I shot this with the Carl Zeiss 21mm Distagon T* and very heavily cropped the image, I love the delicate soft folds on the rose.


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