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Jan 22, 2014 19:36 |  #16

KirkS518 wrote in post #16625266 (external link)
If you prefer a zoom, I can't say enough good about the Tamron 70-300VC. Just another one to throw out there. :)

***EDIT - It may be too slow, especially if you're shooting indoor sports.

Definitely too slow for hockey and basketball, both in maximum aperture and autofocus speed. In my experience it hunts much more than the Canon 70-200 f/4L I used to own. A good lens for wildlife and portraits, but not so much for sports.

I'm a huge fan of IS, but it isn't usually necessary for sports photography. Especially on full frame, it is fairly easy to hold a 70-200 steady at the shutter speeds required for sports photos (1/500 or faster)


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Jan 23, 2014 22:07 |  #17

So I think I have it narrowed it down between these two. I am well aware of all the accolades of the Canon but would I miss the extra reach of the Sigma shooting sports? I am not going to be shooting pro sports on huge fields.

http://www.thecamerast​ore.com …0mm-f2-8-L-IS-II-USM.aspx (external link)

http://www.thecamerast​ore.com …mm-f2-8-EX-DG-OS-HSM.aspx (external link)




  
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Jan 23, 2014 22:56 |  #18

I think either would be an awesome choice. I know first hand the quality of the 70-200 MK II. I would LOVE to own the 100-300 someday though.

I definitely think both of those choices would offer amazing photos.




  
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Jan 23, 2014 23:55 |  #19

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I own the Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS EX. I use mostly for hockey and portraiture. It is a darn good lens! A little soft wide open but stop down a little bit and it is every bit as sharp as my old 70-200 f/4L that i got rid of to replace with this. Focusing with the HSM is fast enough but not USM fast. Canons 70-200 2.8 IS II is king but this lens keeps up with it in many regards, especially stopped down.

I use the same lens and love it. That "little soft" at 2.8 is no softer than the Canon mkI but the OS and AF are a bit better. So it's like buying between the mk1 and mk2.

Another you might want to look at is the Sigma 120-300 f2.8. It's a bigger and more expensive lens, but Canon doesn't even make a counterpart to this one and it is FANTASTIC for sports.


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Jan 24, 2014 00:50 |  #20

kfreels wrote in post #16631832 (external link)
Another you might want to look at is the Sigma 120-300 f2.8. It's a bigger and more expensive lens, but Canon doesn't even make a counterpart to this one and it is FANTASTIC for sports.

Thats one of my options I have linked in the previous post. I just can't find enough real world reviews about it online.




  
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Jan 24, 2014 15:02 |  #21

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Thats one of my options I have linked in the previous post. I just can't find enough real world reviews about it online.

I borrowed one last year for a few hours and it was just plain awesome.
Here's a thread on this lens. https://photography-on-the.net …t=1039709&highl​ight=sigma

Keep in mind that on any of these sample archives, people still post poor images due to poor technique. So don't get hung up on those. Instead, focus on the others and pay close attention to how much the images were cropped. There are several that are just amazing and they used stacked 2x teleconverters as well.


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Jan 24, 2014 17:44 |  #22

kfreels wrote in post #16633567 (external link)
I borrowed one last year for a few hours and it was just plain awesome.
Here's a thread on this lens. https://photography-on-the.net …t=1039709&highl​ight=sigma

Keep in mind that on any of these sample archives, people still post poor images due to poor technique. So don't get hung up on those. Instead, focus on the others and pay close attention to how much the images were cropped. There are several that are just amazing and they used stacked 2x teleconverters as well.

Thanks, I saw that already. My biggest concern is focus speed. With the 70-200 f2.8LII I know I am getting lighting fast AF and thats what I need for shooting fast sports such as hockey.




  
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Jan 24, 2014 18:04 as a reply to  @ post 16625285 |  #23

Just curious, looking at the title of the thread... if Canon is the "1st party" lens, and Sigma, Tamron, et al, are considered "3rd party" lenses, what's a "2nd party" lens?

Back on topic. I have and love an EF 70-200 f/4L IS, and have been considering purchasing the EF 100-400 L. Then the Tamron 150-600 came out, and early reviews and images look darn good. Just pulled the trigger about two hours ago. $600 cheaper, more reach, and newer stabilization.


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Jan 24, 2014 18:55 as a reply to  @ post 16628044 |  #24

I'm happy with my Canon 70-300. I've never used it indoors tho.




  
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Jan 24, 2014 20:56 |  #25

Lichter21c wrote in post #16625285 (external link)
the 400 5.6 does not have IS as an option.

the 100-400 does have IS but its only a 2 stop.

the next step is about 6K

The new Tamron 150-600 is $1069 in the US.


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Jan 24, 2014 21:25 |  #26

LV Moose wrote in post #16634061 (external link)
Just curious, looking at the title of the thread... if Canon is the "1st party" lens, and Sigma, Tamron, et al, are considered "3rd party" lenses, what's a "2nd party" lens?.

I've often wondered the exact same thing. We have too much time on our hands....


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Jan 25, 2014 02:50 |  #27

LV Moose wrote in post #16634061 (external link)
Just curious, looking at the title of the thread... if Canon is the "1st party" lens, and Sigma, Tamron, et al, are considered "3rd party" lenses, what's a "2nd party" lens?

I believe a second party lens would be a lens manufactured by you, the owner/buyer of the camera.

1st = lens made by camera manfucturer
2nd = lens made by camera purchaser
3rd = lens made by another party outside the transaction - a third party.


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Jan 25, 2014 06:00 |  #28

Pretty sure that is right on as far as how the "party" designations go as well.

Forget third party gear, you should see My second party gear....it is really bad! Everyone complains about plastic until they see tape as a common component.


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Jan 25, 2014 10:16 |  #29

kfreels wrote in post #16635068 (external link)
I believe a second party lens would be a lens manufactured by you, the owner/buyer of the camera.

1st = lens made by camera manfucturer
2nd = lens made by camera purchaser
3rd = lens made by another party outside the transaction - a third party.

Makes sense.

Now please 'splain 2nd world countries. You hear about 1st and 3rd, but 2nd... not so much. But I guess that's a topic for another thread. :)


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Feb 03, 2014 19:09 |  #30

For anyone who is interested I decided to go with the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II. Long story short I was able to try the Sigma in store and I am hoping it was a bad copy as the AF was slow and had troubles locking on.




  
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