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Jan 25, 2014 07:02 |  #7861

Maxdave wrote in post #16635221 (external link)
It has not been specifically mentioned in this discussion that the large pixels of the 1D3 (and some other bodies) raises the Diffraction Limited Aperture to values much more forgiving in the field. The 1D3, 1D X, and 1Ds3 all come out to f/11 or slightly narrower; the 5D3 to just a touch wider than f/11.
The smaller pixels of some other bodies cause the onset of diffraction to occur way down the aperture scale .... 7D and 60D at f/6.9, 50D at f/7.5, 70D at f/6.6 and the Rebels at f/6.8 to f/7.5.
Having owned and used a 50D and 7D extensively I ran into this trying to stop down to f/11 and f/16 for landscape shots. Any advantage of more pixels was wiped out by this problem. The very small DLA made using some lenses difficult if they only achieved acceptable sharpness at reduced apertures.

If you read the entire set of articles referenced above you would notice that the large number of pixels in the bodies you mention (1D X, 1Ds3, 5D3) compensates for the individual pixels being somewhat smaller than the larger pixels in the 1D3.
The author of the articles speculates that somewhere around 5 to 5.5 microns is the sweet spot, higher if you especially favour low ISO and clean files, and lower if you want more resolution above all else.
Several bodies like the 7D (4.3), 50D (4.7), 60D (4.3), 70D (4.1) and the Rebels (4.3 to 4.7) fall on the "lower" side of this scale. Nobody complains about the resolution of the 7D; but we do read (and I experienced) the struggles to get "clean" files (it drove me crazy!)

We all know your 1D X, 5DM3 and 1Ds3 are better than a 1D3 ... why wouldn't they be? They are all professional level like the 1D3, and are either newer, more expensive, or both. Like you we would all use a 1D X instead of a 1D3 for action or a 1Ds3/5DM3 instead of a 1D3 for portraits and scenery.
But not all of us can own all four of these bodies ($13,000 to $14,000 I figure). Most of us in this forum have a 1D3 and one of the others at best ... that's my situation, and here in Canada, at my club, I am already considered "camera wealthy" by many ...

The point I am making is that for a great price used (about $1000-$1200) a shooter can get a versatile professional level body that can produce images close to the "big boys" worth much more (1D X, 5D3, 1Ds3, 1D4) and as good or maybe in some cases better than some of the others (7D, 60D, 70D, Rebels), and that part of that is due to the "giant" 1D3 pixels.

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Thanks Max, this is a good detailed and can say brief details of what i may read on that link given to me.

Well, i never worry about that pixel density or size when i buy any camera, i only go with overall or whole specification and see if that will suit me, some people buy a camera for only 1-2 specifications, but for sure i understand why many go with less expensive body that has good enough performance such as 5Dc/5D2/6D/1D3....etc

I really feel lucky in Canon bodies, i only don't have 1D4 or 5D3 to have really amazing bodies collection even i have 1DX and 1Ds3, but doesn't matter if i can buy another body later that can be in a place of 1D4 and 5D3, 1DX is in between of those 2 bodies.

Believe me, i was happy using my 1D3 for sports before i can get 1DX, it replaced my 1D2n with no mercy regardless of all those AF servo issue, and i still keep it as a backup, but i was planning to sell it so i can get another 1DX or at least buying a used 1D4 to have that crop factor but newer model than 1D3.


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Jan 25, 2014 07:46 |  #7862

Still amazed at the files this camera is giving me, even in such low light situations, ISO1600 and 3200 are just excellent.

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Jan 25, 2014 11:24 as a reply to  @ Paulstw's post |  #7863

It's here!!! Ebay purchase and it's in perfect shape, doesn't get much better than that. Time to go shoot, hopefully I'll have something to put up here before the weekends out. Love my new brick!

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Jan 25, 2014 11:34 |  #7864

rsharp76 wrote in post #16635779 (external link)
It's here!!! Ebay purchase and it's in perfect shape, doesn't get much better than that. Time to go shoot, hopefully I'll have something to put up here before the weekends out. Love my new brick!

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She's a beauty!

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Jan 25, 2014 11:35 |  #7865

Paulstw wrote in post #16635332 (external link)
Still amazed at the files this camera is giving me, even in such low light situations, ISO1600 and 3200 are just excellent.

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Pretty awesome for ISO 1600 ... pin sharp too.


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Jan 25, 2014 11:51 |  #7866

rsharp, congrats on the new camera.

Paul, nice Starling. Amazing how sharp the 400 5.6 is wide open. I'm one of the "hopefuls" for the new Tamron 150-600... but, I can't deny I've been thinking of picking up a 400 5.6 instead... for the 3rd or 4th time :D


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Jan 25, 2014 12:11 as a reply to  @ amyandmark3's post |  #7867

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Jan 25, 2014 12:20 |  #7868

Great photo Cliff. Hard to believe that's in Oregon... I would have guess somewhere in Europe because of the building style (not that I'm an expert of architecture, lol!).


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Jan 25, 2014 12:24 |  #7869

rsharp76 wrote in post #16635779 (external link)
It's here!!! Ebay purchase and it's in perfect shape, doesn't get much better than that. Time to go shoot, hopefully I'll have something to put up here before the weekends out. Love my new brick!

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Damn! how much did u end up paying for it?




  
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Jan 25, 2014 12:39 |  #7870

Kanye wrote in post #16635907 (external link)
Damn! how much did u end up paying for it?

Originally bought one from a dealer that had some blemishes for $925 but it was DOA. After that I figured I would be a little more anal and dedicate some time to getting a good deal. Bought this one from an individual for $821 (auction ended at like 4 am which helped). I was prepared to spend around $1000 to get a good one with box and charger etc but the camera gods smiled down on me with this one.

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Jan 25, 2014 16:24 |  #7871

I have been considering letting go of my 1D3 in order to move up to a 1D4. Mainly for the video capability; but also the higher ISO sweetness. I'm a little discouraged about the prices dropping for the 1D3 though. I paid 1k for mine about a year and a half ago.


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Jan 25, 2014 16:42 |  #7872

javapop wrote in post #16636388 (external link)
I have been considering letting go of my 1D3 in order to move up to a 1D4. Mainly for the video capability; but also the higher ISO sweetness. I'm a little discouraged about the prices dropping for the 1D3 though. I paid 1k for mine about a year and a half ago.

And i paid nearly $3800 to buy mine Brand New, so what to do?


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Jan 25, 2014 17:09 |  #7873

1D3s used to be like 1700 back when I wanted one badly.

now is the time.




  
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Jan 25, 2014 17:10 |  #7874

rsharp76 wrote in post #16635937 (external link)
Originally bought one from a dealer that had some blemishes for $925 but it was DOA. After that I figured I would be a little more anal and dedicate some time to getting a good deal. Bought this one from an individual for $821 (auction ended at like 4 am which helped). I was prepared to spend around $1000 to get a good one with box and charger etc but the camera gods smiled down on me with this one.

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did the auction say it came with the box?




  
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Jan 25, 2014 17:12 |  #7875

Tareq wrote in post #16636415 (external link)
And i paid nearly $3800 to buy mine Brand New, so what to do?

yeah, I reckon it falls much nicer than my old G4 tower.... which I couldn't off load for $75...


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