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Swapping the Canon L f/1.2 for the Canon 1.8?

 
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Jan 25, 2014 09:26 |  #16

mickeyb105 wrote in post #16635441 (external link)
^^^^^^this sounds like excellent advice.

Thanks for sharing your experience.


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Jan 25, 2014 09:50 as a reply to  @ little canon's post |  #17

Personally, I would take the best glass over camera upgrades any day. In fact, that is what I have done. But I take photos for myself, not for others so that is the perspective where I am coming from. I think if you want faster autofocus or fps, then a used 1D model is a better choice. I remember the 85L working lovely on my 1D body. It was a great combination.




  
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Jan 25, 2014 10:41 |  #18

are you mostly using your 85 1.2 bellow 1.8? if not, sell it. if you are using it a lot bellow 1.8, dont sell it. you will sorely miss it. I have owned both lenses, as well as 24-70 II and 135L.


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Jan 25, 2014 11:25 |  #19

I have the 85 f/1.2 and the 5DMkIII as well as the 24-70 and I occasionally shoot kids as well as events.

the 85 f/1.2 will make you curse and scream like a sailor at times trying to catch energy-packed kids! But if you put the effort into it and do some pre-planning you'll get some shots that cannot be rivaled!

In your case I would recommend selling the 85 1.2 for a 1.8 and buying the MkIII, only if you take your profits and immediately work to add the 1.2 back to your arsenal. With the 24-70 and 135 you probably could easily cover the range required to capture kids and events and just sell the 85 and not even buy a replacement. But man, when you nail the 85 1.2 (and the MkIII does make the lens focus a bit faster than the MkII but its still noticeably slower than the 24-70 or 135) you want to go out and sing in the rain!




  
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Jan 25, 2014 14:51 |  #20

I'd do it, sell the 1.2. Like you said, missing that one amazing shot would be the deal breaker. I'd take that one amazing shot at F1.8 over the missed 1.2 shot ;) DOF at 1.8 on FF is still very thin and the 1.8 AF is REALLY fast.


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Jan 25, 2014 18:16 |  #21

I would much rather have the 5D3 than the 85L.


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Jan 25, 2014 23:32 |  #22

I think it's rare to see so many people say that they'd rather have a camera body over a lens but the 85L is definitely a finicky beast. I too would rather have a 5d3 and 85 1.8 vs a 85L just due to AF speed from this setup compared to the 85L.


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Jan 25, 2014 23:36 |  #23

bps wrote in post #16635304 (external link)
Personally, I would not swap out the 85L for an 85 1.8. I would save more and wait longer to upgrade my camera body.

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Same here. I know people have this opinion that there isn't much difference between both, but the 85L is night and day different than the 85 1.8 version.




  
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Jan 25, 2014 23:46 |  #24

kevindar wrote in post #16635668 (external link)
are you mostly using your 85 1.2 bellow 1.8? if not, sell it. if you are using it a lot bellow 1.8, dont sell it..

^ this!

I would contradict most of the posts. If my choices were a 5D II and 85L II or the 5D III and the 85 1.8
I would chose the 5D II and 85L II, however I would use it at 1.2 to 1.8 99% of the time.
The 5D III is an amazing camera, save up, but I would rather have the 85L II lens.
I currently have the 6D, but I have borrowed the 5D III from a friend, it is nice.


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Jan 25, 2014 23:55 |  #25
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InfiniteDivide wrote in post #16637255 (external link)
^ this!

I would contradict most of the posts. If my choices were a 5D II and 85L II or the 5D III and the 85 1.8
I would chose the 5D II and 85L II, however I would use it at 1.2 to 1.8 99% of the time.
The 5D III is an amazing camera, save up, but I would rather have the 85L II lens.
I currently have the 6D, but I have borrowed the 5D III from a friend, it is nice.

Problem is shooting @ f1.2 means you are stuck with center point and center point only.

The dof is so thin that you simply can't rely on non crosstype point.

Does that mean it can't be done? Sure you can, but the success rate is going to be low, and it will frustrate the hell out of you.

5D2 + fast prime shot wide open with any point other than center is not a good combo...I know because I had been thru that pain ;)


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Jan 26, 2014 00:41 |  #26

If i were you I'd do it and take 5D3 with 85 1.8 over 5D2 with 85 1.2. With the 5D3 you're essentially getting a "free upgrade" on all other lens due to the superior AF system.


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Jan 26, 2014 01:49 |  #27

it's a tough call. The 85 1.8 is really close to the IQ of the 1.2, but as always, it costs a lot for that extra IQ. 85L was quite frustrating with kids, even with the 5D3. The combination of slightly slow AF plus razor thin DOF was not a good match. The 85 F1.8 on the other hand has great optics, photos can be processed to be almost as good, and the AF is really good.

Main problem is that after shooting the 85L for a while, it's really hard going back to something that gives lesser IQ.


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Jan 26, 2014 02:24 |  #28

I think our Lady knows what she is doing with what she has got, and her work is very good. The lenses she has chosen are well suited to render the images she wants and is getting, so it is especially difficult to find changes that will make room for a 5D3 to replace her 5D2.

When I got my 5D3, one of the earliest, I was startled to see how it gave all my lenses a rebirth, giving me performance that I didn't know was in them on previous bodies. I guess you could say the 5D3 manages lenses much better, including the 85L which appears to be central in Nori's work. Add the 5D3's refined lens management to its myriad of AF options, it won't miraculously transform an 85L into a fast sport lens, but it may well enhance the AF acquisition of active children.

What she is looking for is a strategy to upgrade her 5D2 to a 5D3, which in the context of her work makes sense. Rather than breaking up a winning team, certainly with a financial loss, my suggestion would be to save more money, or find a good used 5D3, and/or rob a bank. :lol:


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Jan 26, 2014 03:19 |  #29

John_T wrote in post #16637447 (external link)
What she is looking for is a strategy to upgrade her 5D2 to a 5D3, which in the context of her work makes sense. Rather than breaking up a winning team, certainly with a financial loss, my suggestion would be to save more money, or find a good used 5D3, and/or rob a bank. :lol:

As a rule of thumb I have always heard people agree on it is, upgrade glass before body.
I see many posts asking about upgrading their T3i to a 70D and many replies suggesting that their body is fine, and to get new glass for better results.
This is not the same question or situation, but the rule applies.
I completely understand the questions of selling the 85L "TO FUND" the 5D III purchase.
But I think they should keep their superior glass for now, and save up the money for the superior body, used as you suggested.


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Jan 26, 2014 03:43 as a reply to  @ little canon's post |  #30

Thank you all very much for your help and suggestions. I have a lot to think about right now..

And thank you John T for your kind compliment. :)




  
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