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Jan 27, 2014 20:43 |  #1

With tax time coming up and hoping that the wife will release a little fundage. I have started looking at picking up a 70-200. Of the three lenses in my price range I would like to find out what the thoughts of the great people around here on them are.

The F4/L (non IS) Canon often listed as a the best bang for the buck lens there is.
Almost everybody loves this lens. The only things I hear said about it is from the people who have had both the IS and non-IS versions. The most seen line is after having both, no way would I go without the IS again in that FL.

The F4/L IS Canon. If I get used this lens fits inside my budget. A five star lens on The Digital Picture. Great lens from everything I have seen. Is it worth twice the cost over the F4 non IS?

The F2.8/ VC Tamron. Again the used ones I have seen fit in at about the same price as a used F4 IS. I really love my 28-75 so I have no aversion to 3'rd party lens and this one seems to get great reviews as well. But I don't see a lot about it.

Any input would be great.

If it was your money. Would you spend twice as much as the F4 non IS on one of the other lenses and why. Or would you pick up the F4 and spend the extra cash on something else camera related?

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Jan 27, 2014 20:50 |  #2

I would (and did) get the f4 IS. It's an outstanding lens in every respect - does everything well, and is small enough and light enough to take everywhere. You would not be disappointed.

One of the reasons I would choose this over the Tamron is size and weight. Before I bought my f4 IS, I used to own a f2.8 non-IS, and it was a very large beast indeed. I found it too heavy for many of my uses, and often left it at home just because I didn't want to carry it around. This may not be a problem for you, but it was for me. I mention it in case you haven't thought about it. If you haven't handled one of the 70-200 f2.8 lenses, I'd recommend doing so before making a decision.


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Jan 27, 2014 21:02 |  #3

I shake like jello in an earthquake; so, I would pay for IS in anything over 100mm, personally. And knowing the reputation of the f/4s, and owning the f2.8 IS, I'd say go for it. If you shoot enough in lower light, the Tamron might be a better choice, but the build and IQ of the Ls is really amazing.


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Jan 27, 2014 21:06 |  #4

I would (and did) go for the f4 IS. I didn't like the weight of the 2.8 versions because I take mine traveling and hiking a lot. I had the non-IS before, and I only upgraded because I found a good deal on a used IS version. I would get the non-IS again if money was a problem. But if you get the f4 IS, definitely buy used. IMO, the lens is not worth the asking price new.


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Jan 27, 2014 21:10 |  #5

The size is a good thing to bring up there, too. The f/4s are a fantastic size for travel, whereas any of the 2.8s are, necessarily, much larger.


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Jan 27, 2014 21:27 |  #6

Heya,

Depends on how you're going to use it.

The 70-200 F4L is a good lens. But it's not the best thing since sliced bread. Maybe it was back before it's brothers were produced. That said, though, if you get a used one, you can get it for $450~500 in excellent condition. That's a great price for a very good zoom. Personally I use this lens. But, I will probably let mine go soon, in favor of something with more reach. Otherwise, good lens. I don't find I need the IS. I shoot at a high shutter speed for my uses. Haven't really noticed anything that made me want to pay twice the price, for IS (and slightly better optics).

The F2.8 versions (both Canon & Tamron) are better. But do you need F2.8? That's the question. F2.8 is good for better autofocus. F2.8 is great for portraits. For a lot of other stuff, you may find yourself stopping down for depth of field purposes, or for sharpness purposes. I shoot my F4L a lot at F8, for sharpness. So again, it comes down to what you're going to use it for.

If I were to do it all over again, and I wanted a 200mm lens, I would get the Tamron F2.8 VC. Yes, it's expensive, but it's half the cost of the Canon version and about as good as it is. I think of all the 70-200's, that's the better bang for buck option these days if you want "it all" in a package. If you can compromise more, then perhaps hunt down Canon F4L IS versions used. You can get them usually in the $850~1000 area. Great lens. But for the same cost you can get the Tamron F2.8 VC. Gain a stop for the same cost.

Lastly, weight comes into play. The F2.8 versions of all these lenses are quite heavy. The F4L non-IS is very light weight. This was also a big draw to me, as I walk around with it a lot. It hangs from my neck when I'm not shooting and I don't notice it really, it's just not heavy. If you get the F2.8 versions, they're twice and three times the weight in some cases. It adds up quickly.

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Jan 27, 2014 21:57 |  #7

I'd go Tamron no doubt.
I had the nonIS4. Sold it after I got the Tamron 70-300VC. It was just more bang for the buck. I'd get the ISf4 over the Tamron 70-300VC, but at 3x the price? No thanks.

If the Tamron 70-200VC and ISf4 are the same price, Tamron wins for me every single time. Awesome smooth bokeh, very sharp, lightest, most compact stabilized 70-200 2.8. It is infinitely sharper at 2.8 than the Canon f4IS is ;) VC works wonderfully.

Wouldn't even be a contest IMO.


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Jan 28, 2014 05:14 |  #8

Interesting question, and I have the same one if I can scratch up the funds at some point this year.

In my consideration, I was thinking that the 2.8 lenses would be more accommodating to TC's too.


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Jan 28, 2014 05:21 |  #9

If the size and weight of 70-200 f/2.8 isn't an issue for you, then the Tamron 70-200 VC for sure.
Otherwise the f/4 IS.


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Jan 28, 2014 07:41 |  #10

All FANTASTIC input guys. To be honest I never thought of the weight being that much more for the 2.8 versions. I am glad it was brought up.

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Jan 28, 2014 07:59 |  #11

I have the 70-200 f4 L IS from Canon. Worth every penny! It's not too heavy, performs flawlessly, and is definitely worth paying for the IS version. I've used the 2.8 and while the wider aperture can be fun/nice to have, that thing is a BEAST.




  
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Jan 28, 2014 08:18 |  #12

I'd recommend the Tamron 70-200 2.8 VC. 2.8 just comes in handy way more than lighter body.


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Jan 28, 2014 08:31 |  #13

For me in the 70-200 range, Image Stabilization (IS or VC) is a must.
I have both the 70-200 f/4 L IS and the 70-200 f/2.8 L IS II.
Why both you ask? I bought the f/4 L IS first as the f/2.8 Mark II rumors were beginning to start. The f/4 L IS was so sharp and half the weight, people were bypassing the f/2.8 L IS Version 1. Canon had to Wow Us with the 70-200 f/2.8 Mark II, and they sure did.
When I purchased the f/2.8 II, I was in no real hurry to possibly sell the f/4 L IS. The f/4 would make a wonderful backup lens when and if the f/2.8 would require service or if I felt like traveling lighter.
After owning both for three years now and now 50 years old, the f/4 LIS has been seeing the. Light of day more and more. I am glad I still own both.
I have no reservations at all recommending the Canon f/4 L IS. If you can afford to buy new, you are assured a history and warranty coverage as well. If you can find a used gem for a great deal by all means. The difference in price for me between used and new must be significant.


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