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135L vs 70-200 2.8

 
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Jan 28, 2014 01:36 |  #1
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Hi,

I want to buy one last lens this spring.
Camera is a 5dII and lenses I already own are 17-40, 24-105, 70-200/4Is, 50 1.4 and 90 2.8.

I shot around 45% landscape 45% portraits and 10% anything else.

I have narrowed down to two options:
Tamron 70-200 2.8 VC USD (can't afford the L IS II,) and sell the 70-200/4.
Or keep the f4 and add a 135/2.

What makes more sense?




  
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Jan 28, 2014 03:28 |  #2

If you buy the 135 f/2 L you will never part with it, it is Canon's fastest lens and sharpest just ask the pros not the weekend experts.


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Jan 28, 2014 03:29 |  #3

Keep the f4 and add a 135 f2 L




  
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Jan 28, 2014 03:32 |  #4
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Sorry.. English is not my native language. What does "you will never part with it" mean?




  
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Jan 28, 2014 03:34 |  #5

Richie1978 wrote in post #16643335 (external link)
Sorry.. English is not my native language. What does "you will never part with it" mean?

It means that you will never want to sell it or get rid of it.




  
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Jan 28, 2014 04:59 |  #6
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I had the 135L. I sold it, the 85 1.8 and the 200 2.8L II, to switch to a Sigma 70-200 OS. I am a weekend warrior.


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Jan 28, 2014 05:04 |  #7
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And how do you like it for portraits, when it comes to bokeh?

Especially kids.




  
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Jan 28, 2014 05:08 |  #8

To tell you the truth, I'd choose any decent 70-200 f/2.8 over 135L. That's not saying 135L isn't a fabulous lens as it most definitely is. However long focal length prime lens just isn't flexible enough to use and quite one-dimensional for practical use. 70-200 f/2.8 offers a good combination of PQ and flexibility, much more fun to shoot with, i.e. it can do many things well like landscape, events, portrait and sports.

In my case I sold the 135L and got a Sigma 70-200 EX DG. Frankly that was one of the best decisions I've ever made about purchasing photography gears. The 135L is great but I quickly got bored of it for the inflexibility despite the great PQ. In the last months I barely used it at all. The Sigma 70-200 doesn't have the same PQ as the 135L but it is just so much more versatile and fun. It got used much more often then the 135L. In the end I upgraded to the 70-200 IS II and couldn't be happier.

Just my $0.02


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Jan 28, 2014 05:11 |  #9

Had 135 2.0 and sold it. Excellent optical quality and dreamy bokeh but unfortunately the focal lenght was not my favourite one (too long for a comfortable work with a model). I'm saving for 70-200 II now.


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Jan 28, 2014 05:23 |  #10
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genjurok wrote in post #16643418 (external link)
To tell you the truth, I'd choose any decent 70-200 f/2.8 over 135L. That's not saying 135L isn't a fabulous lens as it most definitely is. However long focal length prime lens just isn't flexible enough to use and quite one-dimensional for practical use. 70-200 f/2.8 offers a good combination of PQ and flexibility, much more fun to shoot with, i.e. it can do many things well like landscape, events, portrait and sports.

In my case I sold the 135L and got a Sigma 70-200 EX DG. Frankly that was one of the best decisions I've ever made about purchasing photography gears. The 135L is great but I quickly got bored of it for the inflexibility despite the great PQ. In the last months I barely used it at all. The Sigma 70-200 doesn't have the same PQ as the 135L but it is just so much more versatile and fun. It got used much more often then the 135L. In the end I upgraded to the 70-200 IS II and couldn't be happier.

Just my $0.02

And you would think the same if it is
70-200 2.8 vs 135 AND 70-200 4 IS




  
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Jan 28, 2014 05:26 |  #11
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Richie1978 wrote in post #16643414 (external link)
And how do you like it for portraits, when it comes to bokeh?

Especially kids.

This kind of begs the question, "How does who like what?" doesn't it?

Just for giggles, I'll assume this was for me. I like the Sigma 70-200 OS a lot more than I liked the 135L. When I had it, I was shooting APSc, exclusively. The 135L is just too long to be practical on a crop body. I recently purchased a 100mm f/2 for my 6D, and find the 100 a bit long for FF. No way I could make use of a 135L. I just find zooms more convenient. The other thing I didn't like about the 135L is f/2. DOF at H&S shot range and f/2 is ridiculously thin. I was shooting it at f/4 to f/5.6 to get eyes and ears in focus. At that point a 70-200 f4 non-IS would have been an improvement, if only for the sake of convenience.

If razor thin DOF is your thing, the 135L is a fantastic lens. I think it is over-done. I now have a 35 IS and a 100 2, both purchased to compliment the high-ISO ability of my new 6D. Low-light shooting is the goal. I will tolerate, and do the best I can to mitigate, the downside that comes with shooting fast glass wide open.

Bokeh, shmokeh. And that works no matter how you pronounce it.


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Jan 28, 2014 05:27 as a reply to  @ Fg7uuui's post |  #12

I had the 135L on crop and sold it as it was too long (just like my 200 2.8L)

I bought it back on FF, still it's a bit long, but when you have the space (modelling) it's a bomb!!! Bought it complementary with my 70-200 2.8 II.

In case you want to shoot compact and unobtrusive ;)


Sony A7 III | Metabones V | Canon 16-35 F4 L | 70-200 2.8L II
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Jan 28, 2014 05:29 as a reply to  @ Fg7uuui's post |  #13

I had the 135L on crop and sold it as it was too long (just like my 200 2.8L)

I bought it back on FF, still it's a bit long, but when you have the space (modelling) it's a bomb!!! Bought it complementary with my 70-200 2.8 II.
In case you want to shoot compact and unobtrusive ;)

I could sell it and buy a 85 1.2L II to upgrade my 85 1.8 as the 135mm range is in my 70-200 2.8L II allready.
But I don't, 135L has stellar performance, super AF speed and perfect optics.


Sony A7 III | Metabones V | Canon 16-35 F4 L | 70-200 2.8L II
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Jan 28, 2014 05:29 |  #14

Richie1978 wrote in post #16643429 (external link)
And you would think the same if it is
70-200 2.8 vs 135 AND 70-200 4 IS

One question : do you plan to bring the 70-200 to travel with you?
If that's the case, then get the f/4 IS if you mind the size and weight of f/2.8.
If the size and weight isn't an issue, then for sure I would get the 70-200 f/2.8

Actually I myself use the 70-200 IS II + Canon 100mm f/2 combo. The 100mm f/2 is a great lens and I don't miss the 135L a bit.


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Jan 28, 2014 05:42 |  #15

cookie99 wrote in post #16643326 (external link)
If you buy the 135 f/2 L you will never part with it, it is Canon's fastest lens and sharpest just ask the pros not the weekend experts.

The 135 is a fast lens, but it is not Canon's "fastest". They have plenty of primes that are faster than f/2.

If you were referring to focus speed, then Canon still has plenty of lenses that are the same speed AF or faster.

As far as it being the sharpest, I wouldn't say this either. Take the 85L and stop it down to f/2 and then compare. The 70-200 2.8 II is also VERY sharp wide open and competes with plenty of primes which is great considering it's a zoom.

To the OP, between the 2, I would personally go with a 70-200 2.8 II. It is an AMAZING lens for portrait work, and I have even seen some great landscapes done with it. It is quite a bit more versatile than the 135mm lens, but it is a lot heavier. Having a white lens also tends to make you stand out. For some this is a bad thing, for some it's a good thing, and others don't care either way.

The difference between f/2 and f/2.8 is 1 stop which is not huge, but there are times it cane make a difference. The quality of the out-of-focus areas between the two lenses are very similar. Personally, I cannot tell the two apart from each other.

The 70-200 2.8 II is sharper than the 135L when compared both wide open. The 135L is pretty soft in the corners at f/2. When stopped down to 2.8 the 135L begins to have an edge. It has less vignetting and begins to match the sharpness of the 70-200 2.8 II.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=0 (external link)

So when it comes down to it, you need to consider the size, weight, and size of the area you will be working.

For me, I didn't mind the weight, or the fact the lens is a white color. I LOVE have the 70-134 and 136-200 compared to just have 135mm. For me, the 70-200 2.8 is a go to portrait lens.

Just my 2¢


5D Mark III / 70-200 2.8L IS II / 24-105L / 50 1.8 stm / Tamron 70-300 VC / Sigma 85mm 1.4 Art

  
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