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What did you miss when you went from 7D to 5D or 6D?

 
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Jan 28, 2014 10:01 |  #16

yes Lukas
you are right
no need for the FF if i dont print big size photos or i don't sell photos
the 7D or the 70D is a good choice for us


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Jan 28, 2014 10:04 |  #17

MalVeauX wrote in post #16644025 (external link)
The difference is still big. The 6D for example, at ISO 25600 is probably cleaner looking than the 70D at 6400. Not all full frames are cleaner than the newer crops, but a few stops difference is a big deal when you're at your threshold for noise control already. Not an issue if using flash. But if not using flash, it matters unless you're ok with grainy photos, or if you're a master at post processing. Some of us like to have it solved before post processing. It's an option, not a requirement. Don't just discount it.

Wider lenses? Shallow DOF? This is all lens based. Not camera body based.

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I used probably different 6D, because the result was 1 stop ISO difference at max... please, don´t make 6D something it isn´t, it may be very confusing for future buyers....

the biggest difference is 6D has much better SOOC jpeg at higher ISO than 70D.

It´s not lens based, it´s sensor size based... sigh...


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Jan 28, 2014 10:14 |  #18

I have both a 7D and a 6D. I'm loving the 6D's better high ISO capabilities because my 7D is noisy. I'm not loving the 6D's lack of joystick, button layout, and Rebel feel. The lack of popup flash on the 6D for triggering off-camera flash was easily remedied by buying a Canon 90EX for $69.96 on Amazon. Good and not so good in both.....wish I could afford to keep both of them.


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Jan 28, 2014 11:05 |  #19

I still have my 7D although I think I'll finally be selling it pretty soon. The things I'll miss the most are:

  • the perceived extra reach from my 7D, but I'll pick up a 1.4 tc to handle that
  • 8 fps is still very noticeable vs 6fps on my 5DIII
  • the 7D continuous shooting buffer is also noticeably deeper


In good light, the 7D holds it's own with the 5DIII which is why I'm still hesitant to sell it, but I'm not a pro and I don't need 2 bodies.

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Jan 28, 2014 15:15 as a reply to  @ Stone 13's post |  #20

From the 7D, I'm missing the automatic brightness adjust of the rear LCD and compatibility with the handy RC-6 remote controller.

That's about it. The 1DX is great.


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Jan 28, 2014 15:33 |  #21

joystick and popup flash.


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Jan 28, 2014 17:29 |  #22

I agree with the posted. If you have a 7D do not get the 6D.
I owned the T4i and decided to skip the 7D. I do not shoot any sports and my T4i at 5 fps could shoot just fine with IS when I tried it.
The 6D only has one cross type AF center point and my T4i had all 9 cross types.
I am very happy with my 6D for my style of shooting and have tried the 5D III.
I chose to save my cash and bought the 24L II and then the 6D. The logical upgrade for you is the 5D III when funds allow it.
You WILL miss those AF points if you get the 6D. Best of luck on your choice.


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Jan 28, 2014 17:33 as a reply to  @ InfiniteDivide's post |  #23

I still have a 7D but I don't use it often. (I hate the 7D joy stick.) I am more than happy with my 6D. I use it 99% of the time.


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Jan 28, 2014 17:49 |  #24

skywalkerbeth wrote in post #16643947 (external link)
What I DO WANT, is a really good smaller camera. I would love a high quality and lighter camera. A friend just got a Fuji XE-2 and I am amazed by the photos she is posting...

Sony A7R? :D

rick_reno wrote in post #16643963 (external link)
I got the 7d first, then a 5d. 5d af was not great, it also was slow and needed frequent cleaning.

I was assuming the OP meant a 5D3 ;)

MakisM1 wrote in post #16643986 (external link)
...a) The popup flash and Flash Commander. I know, compared with the 5DIII price tag, a bunch of Yongnuos 622C costs appear trivial, but I don't have them... The popup has served me well as a fill flash...

Yes, that's a good point. I don't find myself missing the 7D's flash very often (I use a set of Cactus V5s) but being able to remotely trigger a flash with no extra kit (and also use the onboard flash for a tiny bit of fill) was sometimes useful.

palad1n wrote in post #16644002 (external link)
If the high ISO would be the biggest feature of FF, i would pass the upgrade to FF, because the difference is not that big these days.... i can achieve very similar results with 70D up to ISO 6400...

Given the tests I've seen of the 70D vs. the 60D and 7D (with regard to high ISO) I'd suspect the 5D3, 6D and 1DX would all be at least one stop better (with the 6D being slightly better than the 5D3, and the 1DX being the best).


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Jan 28, 2014 21:06 |  #25

skywalkerbeth wrote in post #16643947 (external link)
What I DO WANT, is a really good smaller camera. I would love a high quality and lighter camera. A friend just got a Fuji XE-2 and I am amazed by the photos she is posting...

You should check out a Canon SL1. Great smaller camera, 1.6x crop, will accept all your current lenses. And little or no learning curve since it's Canon and you already know how to use it.


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Jan 28, 2014 21:13 |  #26

Scrumhalf wrote in post #16643661 (external link)
Spot AF and focus point expansion. In addition to the crop factor. Which is why I still keep my 7D as my birding camera.

I missed both of those AF modes as well. Other than that I really love the 6D.


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Jan 28, 2014 21:16 |  #27

^ The SL1 with the 40mm stm is a joy to use, but the 2.8 on crop is lacking in the bokeh for my taste.
I would prefer it to an EOS-M as a walk around personally.
I can say that using my 50 1.4 on my friends SL1 was a ton of fun, it weighed less than half of the 6D and 24L combo I took.


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Jan 28, 2014 21:26 |  #28

moltengold wrote in post #16644029 (external link)
yes Lukas
you are right
no need for the FF if i dont print big size photos or i don't sell photos
the 7D or the 70D is a good choice for us

Define "need". Hey, we amateurs don't really "need" a top quality photo. The 5Dii is sweet! The 7D is still a really nice camera but ...

I kept both (7D / 5Dii).

Strangely; I use 5Dii for sports now! It started because I packed the wrong camera one day and I noticed more keepers and smoother IQ. The AF didn't suffer that I noticed. The PP crops just got more extreme.

To be honest; I only grab the 7D when I need a pop-up flash (ie: hot-shoe flash isn't appropriate) or my EF-S 17-55 f2.8IS is a better choice. I prefer the FF also because it brings new meaning to the 70-200 range - and my 135L is a more usable FOV.


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Jan 28, 2014 23:08 |  #29

Stone 13 wrote in post #16644196 (external link)
I still have my 7D although I think I'll finally be selling it pretty soon. The things I'll miss the most are:

  • the perceived extra reach from my 7D, but I'll pick up a 1.4 tc to handle that
  • 8 fps is still very noticeable vs 6fps on my 5DIII
  • the 7D continuous shooting buffer is also noticeably deeper


In good light, the 7D holds it's own with the 5DIII which is why I'm still hesitant to sell it, but I'm not a pro and I don't need 2 bodies.

A note on the bolded part. If you get a Lexar 32Gb x1000 CF card you will be able to write fast enough to the CF card on the 5DIII to nearly double the number of raw shots you can take before the camera starts to slow down. Also clears the buffer a lot quicker. It must be the 32Gb, not the 16Gb though.

Makes the buffer at least seem reasonable (from kind of poor) on the 5DIII.


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Jan 29, 2014 08:19 |  #30

When I'm shooting my 5d3, I sometimes miss the 8 fps and the extended reach that the crop gives in good light. The 7d can take awesome photos if you give it good light.




  
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