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Jan 29, 2014 15:38 |  #1111

jbrackjr wrote in post #16647611 (external link)
Assume that you have good light, proper shutter speed, and aperture for a hand held static shot. Was the auto focus consistently accurate? Or would you resort to a burst of shots to ensure you got one good focused shot?

For myself, so far, I'm finding the burst to hope for (not ensure) a good focused shot is the best strategy. Note - it was much less so using my Sigma 150-500. With it, I pretty much knew on a single shutter click whether I had likely "nailed it" or not. It might simply be a matter of familiarization, but so far, for me, with the Tamron, most the time I think I have nailed it, I actually have not. Thus, spray and pray...

jbrackjr wrote in post #16647611 (external link)
From reading this thread (at least most of it), it sounds like there is a real learning curve in using this lens even for those that have a 100-400 or 150-500. I would then assume that your keeper rate is much reduced in using this lens say versus your other zoom that you have (at least to this point in time). Would that be a fair statement?

Again, speaking only for myself, that isn't just a fair statement, be a dead on accurate one. My hit rate is definitely a good bit lower with the Tamron that it is with my Sigma 150-500. But, like I keep saying, I really don't have the experience, can't say, whether that is simply me and how much more difficult shooting 600 is than 500, or it's just that the lens is a finicky SOB. Whatever - for me, yeah, keeper rate is much reduced.

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Jan 29, 2014 15:38 as a reply to  @ post 16647770 |  #1112

jbrackjr wrote in post #16647611 (external link)
I have a couple of questions to those that own or have used the Tamron.

Assume that you have good light, proper shutter speed, and aperture for a hand held static shot. Was the auto focus consistently accurate? Or would you resort to a burst of shots to ensure you got one good focused shot?

From reading this thread (at least most of it), it sounds like there is a real learning curve in using this lens even for those that have a 100-400 or 150-500. I would then assume that your keeper rate is much reduced in using this lens say versus your other zoom that you have (at least to this point in time). Would that be a fair statement?

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

My main reason for burst shooting with it has been due to attempting to mitigate camera shake, further, moreso than trying to mitigate the AF. Since the FOV at 600mm, on the 7D is so narrow, it doesn't take much movement at all to soften a shot; regardless of higher shutter speeds and/or IS.

Having owned the 100-400 for several years now, *I* certainly feel there's a notable learning curve to this lens. Also, the 100-400 is much easier to shoot hand-held all day; to get the best out of the Tamron after more than a couple of hours required breaking out the tripod.


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Jan 29, 2014 15:39 as a reply to  @ post 16610726 |  #1113

For those of you who have used this, I live about 45min from Yosemite. I assume this would make a great lens for all the wildlife there?



  
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Jan 29, 2014 15:54 |  #1114

ed rader wrote in post #16647923 (external link)
what was the other parts of the reason, Gabe?

Too much overlap with my Sigma 120-300 2.8 OS setup (plus converters).
It was kind of an impulse buy (I partially "blame" my wife for it too :) ) and eventually sent it back. I decided to keep the Sigma which is much more versatile in the various 120-300 2.8, or 168-420 f/4, or 240-600 5.6 configurations.
So the Sigma is much heavier but still allows me to get better wildlife shots overall. I still think the Tamron is an excellent choice for someone with a $1K budget, I think overall it beats all alternatives in that price range ( though I never had the Canon 400 5.6L, and for certain people it is definitely an alternative, but I generally prefer zooms, I'm a "composition junkie").


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Jan 29, 2014 15:55 |  #1115

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #16647850 (external link)
Hi Jo! Welcome to the discussion! Between three dedicated Tamron 150-600mm threads, you have a lot of catching up to do!! :lol:

Thanks Levina and Peter :)

Peter, I'm waiting for your pics, even though I am not planning of buying one anytime soon, I am looking forward to seeing beautiful photos from your able hands :)

Levina, I really like how you summed it so far (well, at least so far as page 44 :)). I value your opinion very much :)

Now back to page 44 :)


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Jan 29, 2014 17:21 |  #1116

jodelak wrote in post #16647962 (external link)
Thanks Levina and Peter :)

Peter, I'm waiting for your pics, even though I am not planning of buying one anytime soon, I am looking forward to seeing beautiful photos from your able hands :)

Levina, I really like how you summed it so far (well, at least so far as page 44 :)). I value your opinion very much :)

Now back to page 44 :)

Thanks JO maybe will have both on the same time, I put down some deposit but still no ETA. I am not in hurry though. The weather now sucks so I don't mind the wait :)


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Jan 29, 2014 17:32 |  #1117

therobveiller wrote in post #16647263 (external link)
You might find Dustin Abbot's comments about this lens helpful towards the end of his review here.
http://dustinabbott.ne​t …-f5-6-3-di-vc-usd-review/ (external link)

I infer from your post that you are shooting from inside a warm room to outside cold air? To quote part of Justin's text regarding a batch of soft pictures from the lens...
" I would be shooting from the passenger side of the vehicle through the open driver’s side window, but there was about 3-4 feet of warm air (probably about 18C) in the vehicle. That large temperature variation (almost 40C) was causing distortion (astronomers call them “tube currents”) that affected the sharpness of my images."

It sounds like that is exactly the problem you are experiencing - I may be wrong, but...

This is what I was thinking as well. However, I got to shoot outside today with good sunlight and just had an absolutely rotten outcome. I am definitely sending this lens back as I'm sure I have a bad copy. I shot at shutter speeds of 1/1250th to 1/3200th today, AI Servo, on a monopod most of the time, with VC on/off, single center point focus and then with center zone focus on the 70d.
I shot 256 pictures today of geese, bald eagles, pigeons and got a handful of keepers. That's just not OK.
The silly thing nailed focus on a pigeon that just buzzed past me and I got 3 frames of nice sharp flying pigeon but it would not yield a decent pic of a bald eagle gliding gracefully into a headwind (slowly!). I'm so frustrated.
I have better luck with my 70-300L and cropping the heck out of the pic.
I REALLY wanted this thing to be good but mine just isn't.
I've sent an email to B&H. Should I contact Tamron as well?


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Jan 29, 2014 17:39 |  #1118

i dont think its a bad copy john
you had some sharp images from it on your flickr site
but you cant get the sharpness from this lens like the canon 70-300L :)


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Jan 29, 2014 17:40 |  #1119

Well that blows :(
Mine's still back ordered from Adorama. I hope I have better luck. I'll be using mine mainly on a 5DIII, whether that makes a difference or not.

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This is what I was thinking as well. However, I got to shoot outside today with good sunlight and just had an absolutely rotten outcome. I am definitely sending this lens back as I'm sure I have a bad copy. I shot at shutter speeds of 1/1250th to 1/3200th today, AI Servo, on a monopod most of the time, with VC on/off, single center point focus and then with center zone focus on the 70d.
I shot 256 pictures today of geese, bald eagles, pigeons and got a handful of keepers. That's just not OK.
The silly thing nailed focus on a pigeon that just buzzed past me and I got 3 frames of nice sharp flying pigeon but it would not yield a decent pic of a bald eagle gliding gracefully into a headwind (slowly!). I'm so frustrated.
I have better luck with my 70-300L and cropping the heck out of the pic.
I REALLY wanted this thing to be good but mine just isn't.
I've sent an email to B&H. Should I contact Tamron as well?


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Jan 29, 2014 17:47 |  #1120

moltengold wrote in post #16648180 (external link)
i dont think its a bad copy john
you had some sharp images from it on your flickr site
but you cant get the sharpness from this lens like the canon 70-300L :)

I have gotten some decent shots but not at an acceptable rate. It's really a bummer.


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Jan 29, 2014 18:11 |  #1121

i think its a good lens for the price and for the focal length
imagine that focal length on the canon ! how much will be the price for it ?


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Jan 29, 2014 18:58 |  #1122

ed rader wrote in post #16647921 (external link)
be careful not to parrot others who have no real experience with a lens and try it for yourself. the 100/400L is long in the tooth but is still the best and will only be bested when canon decides to upgrade the lens. I'm amazed that we haven't figured this out yet.

good luck with your tammy :D!

pretty sure it was based off their own personal experience...lescrane mentioned owning one in the past...i still don't get why people don't like the push/pull...it's how i use my sigma 150-500OS...

ShutterAttack wrote in post #16647937 (external link)
For those of you who have used this, I live about 45min from Yosemite. I assume this would make a great lens for all the wildlife there?

i feel like every time i go to yosemite, there's not much in the way of wildlife...there's the deer which allow you to get close, the bears that wander into camp, and the chipmunks...but yeah, it's a good focal range for shooting things at a distance


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Jan 29, 2014 19:02 |  #1123

DreDaze wrote in post #16648361 (external link)
i feel like every time i go to yosemite, there's not much in the way of wildlife...there's the deer which allow you to get close, the bears that wander into camp, and the chipmunks...but yeah, it's a good focal range for shooting things at a distance

First time I went was last week. Saw three deer and a coyote. I was happy for a first time, but needless to say half the park is still cut off due to snow.

Maybe you've just had some bad luck. Hope that's the cause anyways for my sake.



  
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Jan 29, 2014 19:14 as a reply to  @ post 16610726 |  #1124

For all that followed my comments about my AF troubles, it was verified by Tamron. A replacement lens is forthcoming, so hopefully the new one will be much better.


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Jan 29, 2014 19:15 as a reply to  @ post 16610726 |  #1125

Good news Jase. Guess you get bugs in everything.



  
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